Episode 9

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Published on:

9th Jun 2022

Apartment 143 (Emergo)

Apartment 143 (Emergo) - This week we indulge Frank's obsession with found footage horror movies. Maybe not the best of its breed, but we discuss the good, the bad, and the terrible of the genre.

We discuss the late Fred Ward, Tremors, the NC-17 rating, Erotic Thrillers, Prey - the Predator prequel, The Boys, The End Of the Tour, memorabilia, and Knock Knock.

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Written By Rodrigo Cortes

Directed By Carles Torrens

Starring Kai Lennox, Gia Mantegna, Michael O'Keefe, Rick Gonzalez

Transcript
Scott:

Welcome everyone to the last video store clerks podcast

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with Frank and Scott, the days of

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blockbuster, Hollywood, and the independent

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video store over.

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But the days of searching the shelves for hidden gems and overlook cult

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classics has never ending join

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us while we drown in a sea of streaming options.

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And ask the question, what the hell

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is

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a good movie.

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Anyway, I'm Frank I'm

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Scott and we're the last video store clerks.

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Oh, it's Spanish.

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It's just Spain.

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Spanish.

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Um, have

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you ever seen a movie called pop star first

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fucking kill you?

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I don't know how you managed to make everything anyone says about

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the movie pop star for literally every situation in your life.

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Lonely island,

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Tim Meadows.

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Isn't it.

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Maya Rudolph is in it seal.

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Justin Timberlake is in it.

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Who else?

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Who else is in it?

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No, I don't want to know.

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Why did you send me a text that says aliens are real?

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The

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government acknowledged the existence of UFO's, but they

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say it's probably not aliens.

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You seem very prepared to answer the school.

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The guy from ancient.

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Yeah.

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It's aliens.

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You have to mess up your hair when you do that.

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I can't even say his last name.

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I can't, I need, I need to look up that guy's last name.

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I don't hear it enough.

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And I don't know

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what it looks like.

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The second you mentioned him, the image pops into my head

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because of that fucking meme.

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You know,

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back in the day, I watched a lot of ancient aliens, but

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I don't have cable anymore.

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Going to

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be a really long answer about why Allianz.

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It's just a lot of people are like, oh, here they go.

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They're trying to distract us from something else going on.

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And it's like, okay, that could be true.

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And then everybody's like, well, okay, so they're acknowledging you have

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foes, but saying aliens aren't real.

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Does that mean that they are real?

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You know, or like, okay, I'm good with that.

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You guys don't know what it is.

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It's probably some other countries.

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Just write that down.

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That's all the scifi movies that I've watched in my life.

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Everything that I've read, all the games that I've played that are scifi.

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Like it's one of those things.

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It's, it's fun.

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I love the idea.

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But then if you think about it, if.

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Where do we go?

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But then you've got the government saying, well, it's not aliens.

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It's just people trying to spy

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on us or, yeah, I think it's, uh, like Stanislaw Lem, aliens,

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like solarise, you're not going to be able to communicate properly.

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Yeah.

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Or at

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Astra

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there, there was nothing.

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Yeah.

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I liked that a lot.

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It's really fucking slow.

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Yeah.

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Um,

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you know, it was like the idea behind it.

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It was great.

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Yeah.

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You get it's like this big, intense moment.

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It's like, there was

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nothing because it was a Terrence Malick wasn't oh, good

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question.

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Good question.

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Not sure.

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Terrence Malick just, he makes the slowest movies.

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I saw that at the

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movie theater, we saw it at the movie theater and it was, you know,

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one where you could eat and drink.

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So we had a lot of food.

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Okay.

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We'll get some cookies.

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You can hear it.

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But, um, yeah, I mean, it's just one of those things, you know, it's,

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you know, I'm waiting for that day when we have our, you know, moment.

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Is there going to be an arrival maybe who knows?

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Is it just other countries dicking around maybe?

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Is it our country dicking around in there saying it's other countries?

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And maybe it's just crazy.

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They're talking about it there.

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They're openly talking about like they're acknowledging yes.

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These things in these videos, we don't know what they are.

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So they're saying it's

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something.

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Yeah.

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It's one of those things, like I wanna believe in ghosts, but I

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can't, I can believe in aliens.

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Statistically gotta be.

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Yeah.

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But it's one of those things like, uh, I'm like, wow, do I

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have time to worry about that?

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Are you

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worried about it?

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I don't know.

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I'm more worried about it.

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Like, cause I finished the expanse.

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I'm worried about like a pan dimensional elder God kind of presence, like out

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in the universe, like one consciousness that will just like eat worlds.

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That that's more what I'm afraid of.

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Yeah.

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Other than that, I don't want to get in a spaceship.

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I don't even really like being on the ocean in a boat.

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I'm terrified giant in the vacuum of space.

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I surf I'm not like claustrophobic per se, but uh, I, I think I would forget.

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Anything short of like 10,000 years from now spacesuit.

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I mean, they've been using spacesuits for awhile.

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Nobody even remembers they're not being a space.

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I mean,

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that's the thing.

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I mean, with the spacecraft out there, we're using shit happens.

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You hear like astronauts talk about like working in a spacesuit and they

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like have to train to do it under water.

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There was one that was like shorter.

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He had to train and get a special space suit made just because he was

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smaller moving around in those things.

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Like, I want agility in my space suit.

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I want to fucking alien covenant space.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That'd be a to let you be a little more agile.

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Yeah.

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When

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somebody hands me a space suit that has like the full, pretty much 360

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view, the meatiest where he's got the, like the hookah, you know,

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he's hitting something out of the straw.

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That one guy.

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Yeah.

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If I could like, you know, get drunk in a space,

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but like, it'd be funny if you have to like reach the

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straws.

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This is my fermented piece.

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I'm trying to fetch it with your lips.

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Like, come here.

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'cause it's, you know, it'd be stuck on this.

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You'd be like just fighting inside the helmet.

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I get that fucking straw.

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No, I mean, there's no telling, but I really

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liked in the expanse, how those spaces looked like they weren't

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going to pop, you know, when they make mechanized suits to wear where you

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can like Ripley around denim into it.

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But until then, I'm not going up there with Jeff Bezos and musky Musk.

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Yeah.

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That's yeah.

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That's a going up there with Michael Fassbender for mailing

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David.

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That's how I picture all those tech guys.

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What are you doing?

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David riding around in a circle shooting baskets.

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And I mean, we just watched Armageddon.

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So watch out for those asteroids.

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You know,

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I've been thinking about Armageddon too much for how much I didn't like them.

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Most of them.

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Uh, I liked the experience of watching it and I'm doing this, but all in

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all like bad taste in my mouth.

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I mean, Michael beta make it up to me.

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So did you like gravity with Sandra Bullock?

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I just didn't feel like it at the time.

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It wasn't, it wasn't completely understandable.

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Wasn't scifi

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enough for me.

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See, I'm so hungry for it.

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Sometimes it was out at the movie theater, so I was like, let's go see it.

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I want

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space boogeyman.

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Spacebook man.

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Yeah.

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I want Atlantans to be real.

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I at least want them to be in the movie.

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I'm not coming for a witches in the woods with aliens.

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Are there aliens?

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I was kind of hoping in a Armageddon that one was going to jump out at

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last minute and I was like, let's just throw the fucking sink in there too.

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We're tearing this fucking house down.

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What'd you watch this week?

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I watched a bunch of bullshit, bunch of bull that fucking game show that Kelly

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was watching when you left last week.

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Oh, the bullshit.

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Yeah.

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I just sat there and watched that I've finished that season out.

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And then I almost thought about going back and watch a couple episodes that I did.

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It's like the most well-constructed game show ever.

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And how I Mandela.

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This is good.

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How we Manda?

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It's a trivia show, which I like trivia I a dealer, no

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deal

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opened the suitcase, fucking Howie Mandel.

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When I was a little kid with Bobby's world made it.

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So I never flush the toilet with it open ever.

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At the end of Bobby's world, they have those like little

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public service announcements.

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That's right.

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From germaphobe, Mandela, Dell.

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We didn't know it was a German at the time.

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And he was like, who never flushed the toilet with it open or their

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toothbrush will get poop all over.

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And I was like, what the fuck?

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That's pretty specific.

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The rest of my life.

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I'm like,

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Nope, particles.

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Now.

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Did you ever see walk like a man?

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Oh, did you ever see sea monkeys, bro?

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That

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sounds familiar.

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As on CBS, it was Howie Mandel's show where he put a rubber glove on his head

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blown up and it was like him and two other guys with rubber gloves on their hands.

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It was like a children's shows.

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That sounds so familiar.

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He was Playhouse kinda wow level children's show.

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No little

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monsters was that.

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I love a

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little more Fred Savage.

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Yeah.

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That's a classic little monsters is going to show that one to your kid for sure.

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Yeah, it'll be there.

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Yeah, it'll be there.

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I've got a list.

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It's not going to be, as I had this whole thing,

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it'd be like back when I was a kid, there was this.

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I'm Fred Savage, the wizard, the wizard, and yeah, that

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one, that one was a good one.

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This is my, probably my first road trip movie flooded and the

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navigator kind of counts, I guess.

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Ooh.

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Was he flooded that?

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I don't

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think he was fighting the navigator.

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No, no.

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I mean flooded the navigator just because it's almost a road trip movie.

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It's a spaceship spaceship road trip.

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Exactly.

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That little creature, that fucking movie traumatized me when I was a kid.

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I loved that movie, that opening scene, where he goes out into

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the woods and then he comes back.

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Parents are scared the shit out of me when I was a kid.

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If

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you think about it, that's deep, especially for a

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kid that age, but sometimes I mentioned that to people and they're

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like, I don't even remember that.

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How do you not remember that?

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This is the only thing that really stuck.

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Yeah about that movie was, I was like, what the

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fuck?

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And at the end, isn't that how things come back around, he

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comes out of the woods again.

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Yeah.

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And it's, it's all fine.

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Which is great.

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That that's hardcore.

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Good little kid storytelling.

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No, that adventure.

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I watched that movie.

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I got excited when that

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movie was on.

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Oh yeah, me too.

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That was a good one.

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Yeah.

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That was like right in between, like my grandmother was like, oh, will you run?

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I'll watch that darn cat.

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We're old enough.

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Now it is a classic, right.

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That darn cat are flooded.

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The navigator.

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The navigator is for sure.

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Flatter than that.

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Darn cat has gone the way of Dick van Dyke.

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Like, do you think, fuck an 18 year old right now knows

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who fucking Dick van Dyke is.

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Yeah, he was on diagnosis, murder,

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Dick van Dyke.

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He's still going 94 years old.

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Awesome.

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Other than that, this week I've watched, uh, I watched the end of the tour and had

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an emotional reaction because I'm also reading infinite just for the first time.

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It's one of those books that people nod like they've oh yeah.

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I'm not going to say I read it, but I'm going to say, I know

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what that is, but I also know.

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It's lik I'm, I'm looking at it.

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But people had told me like when I was in college, that the book was a

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pretentious and hard to follow and dense and it's long, but I'm not

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having trouble understanding any of it.

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Like, I don't know what everybody's fucking pig.

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Just describing

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that book was a huge, that's what she said.

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Moment several.

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That's what she said,

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but I'd watched his like commencement speech and I thought Jason

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Segel did a really good job playing them.

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Great movie.

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I have not read that book.

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I will never read that.

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You don't have time for, um, that's why I have watched less TV this week.

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I finished the expanse, like I said, and then, uh, went

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back to watching the expanse.

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I just didn't like the influence the show was having on the way I pictured people.

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And in books I'd been reading for 10 years and I know it's going to drop

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off early, which is a bummer, but it ends at the end of a book, each

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book kind of functions as a story.

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So it'll be fun.

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I liked the show, but man, the books were fucking amazing.

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And then I've watched Batman, hush, which I hated the way it was fucking animated.

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It was like an anime.

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Yeah.

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But it is one of my favorite comic books of all time.

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So one of my favorite Batman story arcs, it was a good cartoon Catwoman in Batman.

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Fuck spoilers.

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How does he get his Dick out

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of the bag?

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He reveals.

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Well, lots of spoilers.

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He reveals his this 28 year old comic book.

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He reveals his Bruce Wayne to her

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is Bruce Wang.

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And Bruce

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Wayne.

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He showed her her little Edward.

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That's a deep cut that sort

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of, uh, he wasn't shimmering in that movie though.

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I

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probably wouldn't be good at Batman shimmer

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or if like he, he thought Catwoman.

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He, he makes his face in the fridge.

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That's the look on his face.

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It's like the smell is just

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jiggle bell.

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Uh,

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yeah, I'm still waiting for Robin to lay an egg in something.

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I still need to watch the Batman myself.

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It's on it's you still haven't fucking washed it.

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I'm waiting for the wife eat and find time that she can come.

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I want to do it in solid watch.

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I want to do a watch through, I

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guess that's, what's good about this podcast is I don't want it

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to be too like timely, so you can go back and listen to these episodes and

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they're about stuff because people find things on streaming all the

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time that browsing gets out of hand.

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Yeah.

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And some of the best things I found at the video store were just super old

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and buried and dusty and still on VHS.

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Yeah, the cattle every now and then I think I've found a couple movies,

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really random movies that we didn't have the case display case for anymore,

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but like, I'd be going through the movies on the wall, in the back.

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The one I worked at, you brought the case to the guy and he gave

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you the one back with the, oh, like we have the wall of movies behind

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us, you know, that were numbered.

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And I got really fast at typing them into dos,

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but that doesn't date me at all.

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It was like 2008 and he's still using a fucking dos computer.

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Oh.

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Even at corporate Hollywood, you know, we had that, that printer.

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Oh yeah.

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With the perforated

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edges, you can rip them off.

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Um, no, we still, and so a copy of American psycho that I bought on DVD.

Scott:

Well, we, you had to sign for the movie every time at ours.

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No, that was the deal.

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Oh, crazy wide half a page receipt.

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The

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American psycho DVD that I bought, because I was like, it's so cheap.

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I'm going to get it.

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Um, I saved my receipt inside, so I have my Hollywood receipt from buying

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American psycho building 10 years after

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it came out.

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Okay.

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I have one blockbuster video that I didn't return.

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Sadly.

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It was the believer, which I didn't really want to watch it again.

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It wait, Martin sheen.

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No, no.

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With, uh, Ryan Gosling as Jewish.

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Oh, and told me to watch

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that movie.

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I'm thinking.

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And I was thinking the believers.

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No, no.

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Yeah.

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The believer Jewish kid who grows up to be a skinhead and

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it's Ryan Gosling, and I told

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you to watch it.

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You told me to watch it.

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You know, it's funny.

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I don't think I got around to watching it.

Frank:

You fucking kidding me.

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I swear to God when we were like younger, you were like,

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dude, you gotta watch this movie.

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Like, have you heard about this Jewish Nazi movie, fucking Ryan Gosling.

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This was like before anyone knew who Ryan Gosling was back when

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he had a United States of li.

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Pretty fucking crazy.

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Oh, I ain't even thought of that.

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Ryan Gosling's career started off weird.

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Stay with you and McGregor and Naomi Watts.

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You remember that?

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I don't think I remember that.

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I remember I fell asleep in the theater and I had to

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watch it when it came out on top.

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I mean, that's my bad.

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I feel, I feel like I might not have made it around to that one,

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but that's all I really watched this week.

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You're excited about the predator.

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Pre-qual

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I had no idea certain things were happening.

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I didn't know that there was a predator pre-qual.

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I

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haven't seen the trailer for it.

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It's

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a Hulu original, uh, coming out August 5th.

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It's a prequel, it's a predator.

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I watched the trailer and I got super excited.

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And because it's August 5th,

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what is it about like, what's the, uh, that's the premise of kind

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of vague, but there's

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definitely if it's supposed to be before.

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Schwartzenegger,

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that's what I'm assuming.

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And I made the choice not to read articles.

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I don't want to know what's coming.

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Literally.

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Anything could come before the first predator

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and, you know, prequels were such a big thing there

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for them to do a prequel now.

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Yeah.

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I can almost

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appreciate that.

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I never really got into the predator lore, the alien lore I got real into when I was

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a kid, I used to buy those like grocery store, fucking alien Eckerd's pharmacy.

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Yeah.

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I got one.

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That was a, it was like a guy.

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And he was like trying to make us symphony of alien screams.

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I where they really weird comics.

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The aliens had no, this was like a book, like a novelization.

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And it like had, uh, it was like more alien

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lower than I learn more comic.

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You would, I would get, but they weren't like a real comic.

Scott:

Yeah.

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I know.

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Alien predator like crossed over and we're together for a little while.

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I thought I was

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so cool for having them because nobody else had them.

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I was like, I got them from Eckerd's

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other comics.

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I read a lot of the

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comics, but they weren't the comic.

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It was this weird.

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Off-brand

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like, oh,

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that's weird.

Frank:

I didn't collect X-Men cards.

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I collected these cards.

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Oh, you've

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told me about this.

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There's some other superheroes made up superheroes.

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Yeah.

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That's so weird.

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I'm going to find them on sometime.

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It was a whole set of characters that were just, they were similar to the X-Men.

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This was not, this is not the

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eczema.

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Oh, I have like the 92 FLIR ultra entire X-Men set the whole thing.

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It's not worth shit.

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I look

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back on all those things at that store.

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It was a dollar store for kids, for toys.

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It was the off-brands.

Scott:

Oh yeah, for sure.

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It was the occurrence.

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There isn't even an accurate anymore.

Scott:

No, they're gone because they turned it into CVS.

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Right.

Frank:

First time I saw a CVS was where the Eckerd used to be.

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And I was like, ah,

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I haven't seen any of that shit.

Scott:

When I moved down here, I was like, we're the folks who ride.

Frank:

Yeah.

Frank:

And then the boys, the boys season three, June 3rd, Amazon,

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which a week ago?

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Yes.

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Which is.

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Because it'll be pretty fresh.

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I can't wait.

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I'm stoked, especially because I wanted more peacemaker.

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Once peacemaker was over, I was like, fuck God dammit.

Scott:

The boys does it for me.

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The boys is not the same as peacemaker to watch peacemaker.

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I haven't, I haven't no equivalency.

Scott:

I'm excited about umbrella academy too.

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I had to stop really.

Scott:

I liked it.

Scott:

Good time travel.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Good time travel.

Scott:

Where does it end?

Scott:

Oh, I don't know where it ends.

Scott:

Where does it end?

Scott:

It's as long as I'm still enjoying it, it's fine.

Scott:

And as long as I didn't think it ended yet, as long as you're happy.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Oh, one more thing.

Scott:

I watched a season, two of Russian doll after I talked so much shit.

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It was great.

Scott:

It's fucking great.

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I like admitting that I'm fucking wrong.

Scott:

Like I really you're putting in that asterisk right there.

Scott:

I went and did it.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Asterix Scott talked shit about making a second season of Russian doll because

Scott:

the story was over and it was great.

Scott:

It didn't need to have.

Scott:

But I liked it.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Cool.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Good, good time travel different kind of time travels in the first season.

Scott:

Well played Natasha Leah,

Frank:

that wants to say, well, a different kind of doctor.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

W the producers, uh, Amy Poehler.

Frank:

That's part of my, uh, Hollywood saving movie theory.

Frank:

I feel as if the house in umbrella academy is the house from, uh, the one

Frank:

about the family that's in the house.

Frank:

That's all Hillhouse hill.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

The haunting of hill house, because I live in a giant fucking wave and

Scott:

look at the layout of that set.

Scott:

Oh, it might've been no.

Scott:

And that's the

Frank:

thing from that to that.

Frank:

And then there was even another Netflix movie that I

Scott:

watched

Frank:

in.

Frank:

I swear it was the same set.

Frank:

They just change it up enough.

Frank:

You know, they can shuffle some columns around, add some

Frank:

stairs, take some stairs away.

Frank:

Yeah.

Frank:

You're probably right.

Frank:

It was right there in front of my face though.

Frank:

And I just happen to be watching all of these back to back to back

Scott:

and I couldn't get it out of my head.

Scott:

That makes me feel good though.

Scott:

Sometimes like they'll break down a spaceship after a star Trek series of

Scott:

homes and that thing gets destroyed and you're just like, fucking

Scott:

enterprise is gone, you know, but like how they had to rebuild the

Scott:

millennium, Falcon, all that shit.

Scott:

It really bumps me out when they do that.

Scott:

Were they selling one of the fucking Raptors from Battlestar

Frank:

glass?

Frank:

I've seen a Raptor for sale.

Frank:

I've seen a Viper for sale

Scott:

I can get just hang out in this big

Frank:

house.

Frank:

Some of them are being.

Frank:

It's the ones they had in the hanger.

Frank:

I'm assuming, based on the dimensions that I read that's bad ass.

Frank:

So they made it that long.

Frank:

Somebody hold on.

Frank:

Didn't you tell me that Katie Sackhoff has one

Scott:

sugar flight suit home.

Scott:

Was that what I read?

Scott:

Oh, it was the last day of shooting.

Scott:

She like put her flight suit on and got her car and drove home.

Scott:

Uh, I thought that was amazing.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

I got

Frank:

Olympia and autographed Battlestar ornament.

Frank:

I went ahead and I got an autograph season one for myself on DVD.

Frank:

When

Scott:

I sent you the things she was doing, the autographs and stuff.

Scott:

I did it.

Scott:

Oh, you did it.

Scott:

You didn't tell me that.

Scott:

I did it.

Scott:

Oh, I never

Frank:

told you that.

Frank:

You never told me I wanted something cool from Battlestar.

Frank:

That was

Scott:

nice.

Scott:

Okay.

Scott:

And she was doing that to get money for Michael Hogan, Colonel, Ty.

Scott:

He fell down his head and needed some that's.

Scott:

Right.

Scott:

And

Frank:

I, it felt really good to get stuff from her.

Frank:

And, you know, I saw her at that one thing downtown and she seemed really nice.

Frank:

Yeah.

Frank:

Yeah.

Frank:

And

Scott:

then Fred ward died, Fred ward.

Scott:

I'm going to watch tremors because it's so good.

Frank:

Top three were tremors, the right stuff and the adventures

Scott:

of remote Williams.

Scott:

And then he was in the first ever NC 17 movie.

Scott:

That's.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Wow.

Scott:

I can't remember the name of it now.

Scott:

Not a memorable thing.

Scott:

There's lots of bone in it.

Scott:

Lots of bone.

Scott:

I remember it being one of those things where they like lobbied

Scott:

for it for the movie and then used it as a marketing thing.

Scott:

Like, I'll be fucking in this movie.

Scott:

It's erotic, thriller the quality, but you know how I love erotic thriller.

Scott:

I'm going to watch that Ben Affleck one any day now.

Scott:

I mean, made my wife watch a knocked up or knock knock.

Scott:

She'll never fucking let me live that down.

Scott:

And I liked it

Frank:

and that's Eli.

Frank:

Roth's chicken that

Scott:

right.

Scott:

And Ana de Armas counter roofs.

Scott:

And it's a remake apparently.

Scott:

No, it's not a great movie, but I kinda like it.

Scott:

What it is.

Scott:

It's, uh, it's up there with the special

Frank:

would that have happened in his house?

Frank:

Wasn't that nice?

Frank:

No, probably it's where a nice house.

Frank:

Where in Kiana reason, I'm just trying to be in

Scott:

this orchestra where this Mr.

Scott:

Rogers sweater.

Scott:

And it's the first time I've been alone in six years.

Scott:

Whoa.

Scott:

It was all right.

Scott:

All right.

Scott:

Movie, knock, knock is not knocked up.

Scott:

Yes.

Scott:

It's not.

Scott:

Don't make your wife watch it and tell her it's a jut uptown movie.

Scott:

I didn't do that.

Scott:

But yeah, Fred ward is dead.

Scott:

That's how, that's how our brain gets off track.

Scott:

But I do want to watch tremors again at some point.

Scott:

I

Frank:

know.

Frank:

Okay.

Frank:

So, and if you listen to this and you're thinking, oh, I want

Frank:

to rewatch tremors to tremors.

Frank:

Tremors

Scott:

as well as well.

Scott:

I'd rewatch tremors too.

Scott:

All right.

Frank:

Writer, guy, Fred boards and tremors too.

Frank:

Was that the flying ones or was that.

Scott:

Uh, three is the flying ones who is just where they're walking.

Scott:

They start walking a little, like a

Frank:

chickens.

Frank:

Is that the one where he recruits the guy and they have to drive around

Scott:

the remote another guy to go to Mexico.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Oh yeah.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

And it's the old and hired to kill tremors because he's the ultimate tremor killer.

Scott:

Kevin Bacon's off of this girl

Frank:

somewhere.

Frank:

Yeah, because he made all the money off the gravel it's grabbed Boyd's that's

Frank:

what they're called in the first one.

Frank:

One of the big things like Tik TOK or somewhere the opening credits

Frank:

Kevin bacon is hammering this nail into a fence post fucking misses.

Scott:

Oh, I remember it clearly.

Scott:

Yeah.

Frank:

So if you're watching checkout Kevin bacon, missing,

Frank:

missing a nail with a hammer,

Scott:

tremors is worth rewatch rib.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Also good in it.

Scott:

Oh yeah.

Scott:

And the three ninjas grandpa, they got them guns.

Scott:

And the dad from family

Frank:

ties.

Frank:

You never know who you're going to find in a small town.

Scott:

It was a good small town

Frank:

anyway.

Frank:

Yeah.

Frank:

Tremors is good.

Frank:

Go watch tremors someday again, someday.

Scott:

We're all worth watching.

Scott:

There's a series with Christopher Lloyd on scifi channel.

Scott:

Well, no, they

Frank:

kept going with what's his

Scott:

name?

Scott:

Well, yeah, they did that up to like four.

Scott:

No, man.

Scott:

One

Frank:

of them is like

Scott:

tremors.

Scott:

I say at some 0.2 thousands, they did a tremors.

Scott:

The series one season on scifi channel.

Scott:

Christopher Lloyd was on it and nobody's seen it, but me never talked to anyone.

Scott:

I don't know if you've ever heard of that.

Scott:

Christopher Lloyd.

Scott:

Huh?

Scott:

Christopher Lloyd's in it.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

And then they shot a pilot for a new tremor series with

Scott:

Kevin bacon and the pilot is.

Scott:

Oh, like the network passed on it.

Scott:

And I think it just died, which is kind of a bummer.

Frank:

He's busy doing weird

Scott:

horror movies.

Scott:

Well, honor of Fred ward make the fucking tremor series with Kevin

Scott:

bacon, make that whatever channel was going to do that scifi channel.

Scott:

I got that, got a hit.

Scott:

Now resident an alien.

Scott:

You better get another one before this one fucking ends because you're not

Scott:

very good at keeping up with that shit.

Scott:

Reach out to Kevin bacon.

Scott:

Billy Battlestar ended and they just have been missing left and right.

Scott:

I

Frank:

never watched 13 warehouse 13.

Frank:

Was it?

Frank:

I started at once or twice.

Frank:

It didn't grasp.

Frank:

Did you ever

Scott:

see a Friday, the 13th, a series that had nothing to do with Jason?

Scott:

Nope.

Scott:

It was like a.

Scott:

An antique store and all the items were cursed in some way.

Scott:

And so each one was like a thing and that's exactly what warehouse

Frank:

13 was.

Frank:

I feel as if that's exactly what you told me 10 years ago, or whenever that came

Scott:

out, made like the show Eureka, that quality you've described

Frank:

it to me the same way you did years ago.

Frank:

So you're sticking to it.

Scott:

That makes sense.

Scott:

Perfect sense.

Scott:

I had strong feelings.

Scott:

I watched the entire thing.

Frank:

Well, good thing is the movie that we watched at a runtime of 81 minutes.

Scott:

I did have a runtime of 81 minutes, which I really appreciated because,

Scott:

uh, this was not my favorite movie.

Frank:

Uh, no, no.

Frank:

Uh, handheld movies found footage.

Frank:

It's it's, it's an acquired taste.

Scott:

Frank loves handheld found footage, movies seeks them out.

Scott:

He'll watch all of them.

Scott:

He just wants to blanket cover every single one.

Scott:

The cool thing is you can do that.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Bobcat Goldthwait.

Frank:

But he did the Bigfoot and that, and that isn't mine.

Frank:

There were several big foot ones.

Frank:

That's one.

Frank:

That's a good one.

Frank:

And there's another one I could not find the name of it.

Frank:

There was one that was scarier.

Frank:

It was like a horror movie.

Frank:

A

Scott:

big foot one.

Scott:

Yes.

Scott:

Cool.

Scott:

I

Frank:

mean, it was creepy as fuck, and I think they made it take place in Texas.

Scott:

Well, here's the deal with the found footage thing, this kind of found

Scott:

footage movie, we're in a fucking room, one room, like a really small apartment.

Scott:

And there's like a shot on a subway.

Frank:

They were in the apartment the whole time.

Frank:

And while this is classified as a found footage, I mean, it's

Scott:

a paranormal investigation.

Scott:

Don't

Frank:

actually find it's not in the literal sense, found footage.

Frank:

It's just handheld the documentary style.

Frank:

I mean,

Scott:

same goes

Frank:

under the genre.

Frank:

You IMD be it found footage, movies pop up.

Frank:

That's the category it's falling into.

Frank:

And I have seen.

Frank:

A ton of them.

Frank:

Give,

Scott:

give us a summary real quick, and then I'll tell you all the things.

Scott:

I am confused.

Frank:

2012 directed by Carlin Turin's, um, uh, written by Rodrigo, Cortez.

Frank:

Uh, who's best known in the states for directing buried, starring Ryan Reynolds

Frank:

and writing and directing red lights.

Frank:

Uh, Robert DeNiro, Robert

Scott:

DeNiro.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

It's all right.

Scott:

I didn't, I

Frank:

buried in, see, I feel like I've seen buried, but

Frank:

I know that I haven't seen

Scott:

red lights.

Scott:

Okay.

Scott:

Remember Elena draft tested a thing where you could like get buried in a

Scott:

coffin and if you made it through the movie, they'd give you your money back.

Scott:

Shut up.

Scott:

Yeah, I do it totally.

Scott:

How deep they're going to bury you.

Scott:

Yeah.

Frank:

I'm like Dave Chappelle, when he was, you know, crack head on fear factor.

Frank:

You just sleep in the bed.

Frank:

Bugs and shit.

Frank:

I'm just going to take me a nap.

Frank:

Yes.

Frank:

Yeah,

Scott:

I would do it.

Scott:

I would've done it.

Scott:

Did they feed you down there?

Scott:

That's what I.

Scott:

Yeah, I can still get to

Frank:

gap dinner with the movie.

Frank:

Can you get some pizza or like a burger squeezed into a hole somewhere?

Frank:

I want some case out.

Frank:

Dammit.

Frank:

Yeah.

Frank:

Can I have another beer?

Frank:

Well, in this movie, apartment 1 43, currently streaming on Amazon.

Frank:

It's a team of pair of psychologists.

Frank:

They conduct an investigation involving a family living in apartment 1 43.

Frank:

It's an unemployed widower.

Frank:

Allen played by Kai Lennox and his young son played by Damian Roman and

Frank:

teenage daughter played by JIA Montonya.

Frank:

The investigators are played by Rick Gonzalez, Michael

Frank:

O'Keefe and Fiona glass Scott.

Frank:

Basically the dad moves his kids after losing his wife.

Frank:

And the strange occurrence follows them from the

Scott:

old house into the shittiest apartment ever.

Frank:

It's horrible.

Frank:

And what was he?

Frank:

He was an agricultural engineer.

Frank:

I don't even know.

Frank:

There we go.

Frank:

He's an agriculture.

Frank:

That's not even looking at my notes.

Frank:

I love the handheld bad ones.

Frank:

I will turn off.

Frank:

There's plenty of bad ones.

Frank:

I have some good ones.

Frank:

We'll talk about here in a little bit.

Frank:

I didn't want to dip into the bad ones

Scott:

too much.

Scott:

Um, there was a lot of bad ones and

Frank:

something really weird that I noticed while I was looking up some

Frank:

of the ones that I'd seen before,

Scott:

but I like them when they're in the woods.

Scott:

Not so much in a house.

Scott:

Uh there's there's been some good ones.

Scott:

Session nine.

Scott:

Was that what it was called?

Scott:

The Renee Zellweger?

Scott:

No, uh, the one where they like renovating the mental hospital.

Scott:

Um,

Frank:

and so that's, that's several of them.

Frank:

Oh, there is one.

Frank:

Did you ever see the quiet ones?

Frank:

The quiet ones is a pretty good one.

Frank:

You've

Scott:

been seeking them out for a long time.

Scott:

Used to call me all the time.

Scott:

Be like I saw another found footage.

Frank:

My thing is if you're in a dark enough room and it's late enough, I

Frank:

mean, it's, it's just, it's one of the things that really scares me.

Frank:

You watch the big budget, scary movies.

Frank:

There's some jumps.

Frank:

The shit's not that dark.

Frank:

Some of these get dark.

Frank:

This one wasn't the darkest.

Frank:

It had some good, what we taught the jump scares.

Frank:

If you're in the dark and you allow yourself to, it

Scott:

never got me.

Scott:

It never got, you got me.

Scott:

Once the daughter with the white eyes was like the creepiest thing in the movie.

Scott:

Pretty good.

Frank:

And the thing about their jump scares is in some

Frank:

movies, they try and disguise it.

Frank:

If you watch enough of them, you know, when it's coming, they're looking

Frank:

in the bathroom mirror, they opened the medicine cabinet, close it.

Frank:

The most common is it's there.

Frank:

Oh, but people, how many years now?

Frank:

No, it's not there.

Frank:

It's when they turn it's there or they even walk downstairs.

Frank:

Oh, I see what you're saying.

Frank:

They'd use this.

Frank:

They use like a slightly different technique to, oh,

Frank:

you thought you had a switch.

Frank:

You didn't, but then we got you anyway.

Frank:

So what this one to me did was it was the obvious scare.

Frank:

Most,

Scott:

some of them looked really bad.

Scott:

It was like, they tried to get with a jump scare, but then they didn't get me.

Scott:

And then the special effect looks so fucking bad that

Frank:

the strobe lights in the

Scott:

living room.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

That was the worst one in the end.

Scott:

That was a really bad.

Scott:

And

Frank:

you knew that it was going to happen and you knew that it

Frank:

was going to be center screen

Scott:

and it was tense for the lead up to it.

Scott:

But then when it.

Scott:

Kind of

Frank:

deflated, but like you're saying when the little girl pops up at one

Frank:

point and she's just fucking standing there in the doorway with the wide eyes.

Frank:

Yeah.

Scott:

But I got a little more of a like, all right, now we're getting somewhere.

Scott:

Yeah.

Frank:

And the thing was with the activity that's going on in the apartment.

Frank:

It starts right at the beginning.

Frank:

As soon as they walk in the fucking apartment, they're doing a sound check.

Frank:

If fucking wall starts shaking shit.

Scott:

You told me there was a guy from caddy shack in it.

Scott:

And I was just like, I can't, I.

Frank:

So, yeah, let's jump to the cast for a minute.

Frank:

Uh, his name is Michael O'Keefe.

Frank:

He was fucking, once

Scott:

I saw him, I was like,

Frank:

oh, the main guy from Caddyshack, the younger kid

Frank:

is his name and Caddyshack was

Scott:

Danny Noonan.

Scott:

And that was the thing was like, I was looking for somebody from caddy shack,

Scott:

like a fucking bill Murray grown ass man.

Scott:

And

Frank:

no, it's it's the younger guy who gets the chick knocked

Frank:

up and they have big plans.

Scott:

I

Frank:

remember Chevy chase with the none.

Scott:

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Scott:

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Frank:

Katie shacks the shit.

Frank:

It's all she wrote.

Scott:

Fucking love you, bill Murray, someday.

Scott:

You need to watch the movie about the guy who did national Lampoon.

Scott:

Oh, the whole thing.

Frank:

Yeah.

Frank:

I've seen some documentaries on, on, on

Scott:

them.

Scott:

Oh, it's not a documentary.

Scott:

They made a movie for Netflix and somebody plays everybody.

Scott:

Oh with a will forte.

Scott:

No shit.

Scott:

Yeah, it's fucking great.

Scott:

Oh, that fucking sounds amazing.

Scott:

Let me look it up real quick.

Scott:

We're just not saying what it is.

Frank:

Well, yeah, so Michael O'Keeffe Danny Noonan from caddy shack.

Frank:

I'd watch Michael Clayton.

Frank:

He was in Michael Clayton randomly one of the movies I just watched

Frank:

to go to sleep too recently.

Frank:

He's in that

Scott:

I could watch that again.

Scott:

It was good.

Scott:

Pretty good.

Scott:

Mark Michael Clayton.

Scott:

I think I saw that once.

Scott:

I feel like I own that movie really.

Scott:

I think I'd find a random one to own a, so the national Lampoon movies called,

Scott:

uh, a few tile and stupid gesture.

Scott:

I've seen that.

Scott:

I've seen the thing.

Scott:

Yeah, you should watch it.

Scott:

It's really good.

Scott:

It's not as like laugh out loud.

Scott:

Funny as I thought it was, but it's a funny story and everyone in it.

Scott:

They get somebody to play bill Murray in it, which was really weird.

Scott:

No shit.

Scott:

I forget his name, but you'll recognize him cause he do a good job.

Scott:

Yeah, he does an excellent job.

Scott:

Cool everybody.

Scott:

And it did a great job.

Frank:

You're going to fucking play bill Mary.

Frank:

Like you should

Scott:

be able to do it if you're going to.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

And then what's his name?

Scott:

The guy with the mustache who was a Leon and Roseanne.

Scott:

He plays him when he's older telling the story.

Scott:

Wait,

Frank:

was that fucking Michael O'Keeffe no, no, it was Michael O'Keeffe

Scott:

and Roseanne.

Scott:

Oh, I don't know.

Scott:

That's a, you'd have to look that up.

Frank:

Oh shit.

Frank:

Did we just do some weird thing?

Scott:

Oh man.

Scott:

Now I kind of want to run it down and find out that's Martin

Scott:

mall is who I'm talking about.

Scott:

Okay.

Scott:

He was her boss and Roseanne,

Frank:

I fast forwarded to the diner days maybe.

Frank:

And Roseanne, when her and Jackie worked at the diner,

Scott:

either boss at the diner, Danny O'Keefe.

Scott:

No.

Scott:

Michael mull is their boss at the diner.

Scott:

Oh shit.

Scott:

I don't know, man.

Scott:

He's the gay guy heard her gay friend, which was real progressive

Scott:

for Roseanne at the time.

Scott:

Roseanne was a bad-ass at the time.

Scott:

Fast forward on that.

Scott:

I mean, sometimes you take Ambien and you become a crazy old lady that

Scott:

started her career with a brain injury.

Scott:

So,

Frank:

and fucking married, Tom Arnold at one point, Tom married.

Scott:

Her stupid is underrated,

Frank:

bro.

Frank:

What's the one with Rick.

Frank:

Maraniss where he was the bully.

Scott:

And his name is you're running us into corners

Frank:

again.

Frank:

I know.

Frank:

Sorry.

Frank:

I'm getting out there.

Frank:

Fucking Tom Arnold.

Frank:

He

Scott:

was in soul plane.

Scott:

Michael O'Keefe was in Roseanne.

Scott:

Holy shit.

Scott:

He appeared in 35.

Scott:

He

Frank:

was somebody I think he was Jackie's

Scott:

Jackie's

Frank:

ex-husband I pull it out of my fucking ass,

Scott:

pulled it out of my ass.

Scott:

Oh, he's got a fucking goatee mustache, goatee combo, son of a bitch, man.

Frank:

Just randomly happened.

Frank:

Wow.

Frank:

But I knew once we started talking

Scott:

about it, that's why I don't recognize him.

Scott:

He looked nothing like that in this movie.

Scott:

Well, he

Frank:

still had hair and Roseanne, right?

Frank:

Yeah.

Frank:

Is it the weird

Scott:

island hair plugs

Frank:

now?

Frank:

Is it what I call the island?

Frank:

You know, my island, the island of hair on your forehead.

Frank:

Well, what's his name?

Frank:

Rob?

Frank:

Puerto Rico on her

Scott:

phone.

Frank:

I sometimes I compare my hair to what bill Murray's looked

Frank:

like in kingpin during the fuck.

Frank:

It's not that bad, but I feel like that's where it's going.

Frank:

Anyway.

Frank:

Let's not talk about

Scott:

my

Frank:

shit.

Frank:

Let's not talk about my hair.

Frank:

I hate it on dudes.

Frank:

Well, the man buns for years, and now I have a man, but

Scott:

honestly the most recognizable person in this fucking

Scott:

movie is Rick Gonzales though.

Scott:

It's like, he was the one I recognized immediately.

Scott:

And then Kyle Lennox, I was like, I know who they are, but I don't.

Scott:

I had to look him up to bind.

Scott:

He was a police procedural dude, definitely in castle all the way

Scott:

back to NYP blue law and order nineties police, procedural guy,

Scott:

victim, or murderer or something.

Scott:

Always that

Frank:

same kind of, yeah.

Scott:

Okay.

Scott:

So . Yeah,

Frank:

it does in Rick Gonzales.

Frank:

Right.

Frank:

Um, you know, we didn't talk about that before we started talking tonight.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

It's

Frank:

hard for us to talk prerecord, not to talk prerecording.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Especially when he comes in,

Frank:

he was Spanish and old school.

Frank:

He was in coach Carter, biker boys.

Frank:

I don't know if you've ever watched biker boys back in the day.

Frank:

He was enlightened me, green arrowed for some TV.

Frank:

Rick Gonzalez was also in castle.

Scott:

Everybody, everybody, all of them.

Scott:

They make the circuit, man.

Scott:

You got make the circuit

Frank:

Nathan filling thing.

Frank:

And then I feel like you talked about castle a lot

Scott:

and it's funny cause Castle's not that good.

Scott:

It's really not that good at

Frank:

all.

Frank:

I've seen maybe two episodes

Scott:

my whole life.

Scott:

It's just comfort.

Scott:

Comfort, comfort, TV.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Comfort TV.

Scott:

Like the way I do the office.

Scott:

It's simple police procedural.

Scott:

I know I can figure out who the murderer is before they do every time.

Frank:

The original CSI.

Scott:

Oh, yeah, big time.

Scott:

But that's what, that's what good writing is, is yeah.

Scott:

You got to let your audience figure it out just before they do.

Scott:

We really don't want to be surprised.

Scott:

What we want to do is figure it out before these dumb fucks.

Scott:

But this movie was all over the place, though.

Scott:

It really

Frank:

was, you know, those are probably the two biggest names in the movie.

Frank:

Michael O'Keefe Rick, Rick Gonzales, and Kai Lennox are the kind of a tie.

Frank:

I bet they're all on the same level.

Frank:

Really?

Frank:

Just Michael, O'Keeffe's a little bit older for sure.

Frank:

He's just older.

Scott:

But like when they showed up, I was like, why is this guy wearing a suit?

Scott:

And then Rick Gonzales and this blonde Irish woman are just like, in the

Scott:

beginning of it, didn't she call her.

Scott:

He introduced her as the secretary, the secretary was that what it was,

Frank:

he was being playful because she was obviously more than a secretary.

Scott:

I missed because it seemed like an out of context, like thing

Scott:

to say, I thought he was saying that she was like the window or some sort

Scott:

of medium or something like that.

Scott:

And then that never came about didn't Riggins always tried

Scott:

to kiss her at one point.

Scott:

Then there was like, they alluded to that and then never came back to it.

Scott:

But that

Frank:

was enough to show you that there was something there

Scott:

because of that.

Scott:

And because the guy who wrote.

Scott:

Has written really good movies.

Scott:

I almost think this movie got cut up and I did feel like it was a little

Scott:

over edited for a handheld found footage movie, the choppiness there, it was

Scott:

the, the S the like action sequences.

Scott:

Like there was a little too much editing and a little kind of what I

Scott:

like about a found footage movie is you're sort of trapped in that camera.

Scott:

You don't have any control over where it's going to go or anything like that.

Scott:

And when they cut a lot during those moments, then the jump scare would come.

Scott:

I'd miss it.

Scott:

So see, you know, it didn't hit me as hard because I've

Frank:

seen more than you.

Frank:

And so have you seen a lot of them where they have mounted cameras like that?

Frank:

Cause there are a ton of them with that mounted camera aspect.

Frank:

It wasn't

Scott:

even the jump around thing.

Scott:

It was that there were times during Ashton sequences where the same camera was

Scott:

edited, it was still in the same person's hand, but there was a cut and you could

Scott:

see the cut and it was the same camera

Frank:

running.

Scott:

It was like in the middle of a like, Hey, things are banging

Scott:

around and pictures are falling

Frank:

off wall 'cause that's one thing about those movies is

Frank:

sometimes when people are running, it's almost like you believe the

Frank:

shock stops the record for a second.

Frank:

You know, that's another one, those little techniques, but it was too clean.

Frank:

You're

Scott:

saying even more than there's a little too clean.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

And another thing that was weird was this was a Spanish movie that

Scott:

had a Spanish title attached to it because the Spanish title was Emergo.

Scott:

America.

Scott:

Well, which I looked up and it means, uh, it means I emerge well

Scott:

in better title than apartment one.

Scott:

The director was born in Spain, said it was released mostly in

Scott:

Spain, released mostly in Spain.

Scott:

Like its its early release was in Spain.

Scott:

It's all in

Frank:

English, which is weird though, because you've got, what did we say?

Frank:

Two actual Spanish actors, one

Scott:

or two, the daughter may have been spanning.

Scott:

The daughter may have been a perfect American

Frank:

accent.

Frank:

I feel as if his dad may have been.

Frank:

Look

Scott:

going to talk like an old New York Jewish guy.

Scott:

So the sensitive, the psychic you'd say it was one of

Frank:

those times.

Frank:

He was the one who had Spanish acting credits

Scott:

and he had a Spanish accent, a Spain Spanish

Scott:

accent because we're in Texas.

Scott:

I was like, I don't know what that accent is.

Scott:

It's a little too.

Scott:

Influenced, but it sounded Spanish to me by like, you know, mixing of other words,

Frank:

that director was born the same year we were.

Frank:

Oh, that's weird.

Frank:

He's our age.

Frank:

Um, one of the films that I saw that he directed was a short called coming to town

Frank:

and it looked like a horror Sante movie.

Scott:

Oh, I I'll be into that.

Scott:

It's 18 minutes.

Scott:

Santa's sleigh with.

Scott:

No, we might have to do that one at Christmas, but he kills Fran Drescher in a

Frank:

very brutal, is this Goldberg, the wrestler Goldberg

Frank:

or Goldberg from mighty ducks.

Frank:

We fucking can't eat her.

Frank:

You said Goldberg.

Frank:

And I'm like, okay.

Frank:

The one year I watch wrestling Goldberg was the shit.

Frank:

And then, but I'm also a mighty ducks guy.

Frank:

So I'm like, well, wait, are we talking goalie here?

Frank:

Are we fucking, is it something with food?

Frank:

No.

Frank:

Oh man.

Frank:

And yeah,

Scott:

no, but it's uh, we'll, we'll get, we'll get to that.

Scott:

I'm going to write that down.

Scott:

The amount of like jargon, the paranormal investigators used was obscene so

Scott:

much fucking jargon, just describing

Frank:

the situation or their

Scott:

equipment, their equipment and stuff like that.

Scott:

And then it dropped back to this total casual, no big words,

Scott:

conversation, but they'd say it.

Scott:

And you almost felt like the actor was this really the fucking

Frank:

word for it.

Frank:

Speaking of that, at one point, they try to cleanse the whatever's

Frank:

happening in the apartment.

Frank:

By using this thing, they call it like a something transistor or something.

Frank:

Is that 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 more.

Frank:

They plugged in the thing that

Scott:

just, why did they blur that out?

Frank:

Why was it blurred out?

Frank:

Because I was thinking, oh, the spirit or not.

Scott:

Did they just use some weird, uh, equipment that they had laying around

Scott:

and they were like, that's clearly not whatever we're trying to sell this thing.

Scott:

So

Frank:

they had to think of something

Scott:

just to blurt out it had a logo on it or something.

Scott:

Well, and

Frank:

that's the thing I thought, oh, maybe it's blurred out because it's

Frank:

turned on and whatever, it's trying to get out his fucking hate in it.

Frank:

And I was thinking, well, once they unplug it, it won't be blurred

Frank:

and no, then they unplug it.

Frank:

It's still blurred

Scott:

out.

Scott:

Did you also feel like they lost the use of the child actor and

Scott:

that's why they got rid of them.

Frank:

Okay.

Frank:

So the moms.

Frank:

Th they've alluded to this.

Scott:

So I'd like to point out that that kid was the best actor in the movie.

Scott:

He did go a little kid was really good

Frank:

and he said some creepy

Scott:

shit, but they really didn't do any little kid

Frank:

creepy shit and shit goes on in the apartment.

Frank:

But real, I guess it's a halfway halfway through the 81 minute movie.

Frank:

It felt like

Scott:

they lost.

Scott:

So they got rid of the young kid.

Scott:

This is all the days we have with this.

Frank:

So that leaves the dad with the daughter.

Frank:

Who's such a Dick to her dad.

Scott:

Was he her stepfather?

Scott:

And then the mom died.

Scott:

And then, but no, he was like, that's my daughter, like later on in the movie,

Frank:

one of the questions that I have is I thought that at some

Frank:

point they were going to be like, he sexually assaulted the daughter.

Scott:

Well, that too, because they, one of the ghosts or ghosts quotation

Scott:

marks again, was like trying to go up her tennis skirt that she was sleeping in

Frank:

and they're observing us on the camera.

Frank:

And the professor's like.

Frank:

He was on leave the room.

Frank:

We have to, we have to see what

Scott:

happens is that the entity itself was like a projection from

Scott:

one of the people in the house.

Scott:

Psychokinesis psychokinesis I wrote it down too.

Scott:

Cause I was like, what the fuck?

Scott:

Fantasma Genesis was another word that they use.

Scott:

Oh really?

Scott:

Yes.

Scott:

I wanted, I should have looked that up.

Frank:

So they never acknowledged because at one point, when, who is it?

Frank:

Is the daughter possessed at one point when she's like, don't

Frank:

take your hands off of her.

Frank:

They'll she says something about what you did

Scott:

to her.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

And I thought he was supposed to be like channeling the mother at that point.

Scott:

Yeah.

Frank:

And saying stay away from the daughter.

Frank:

Even though it's coming

Scott:

from the daughter, the mother goes.

Scott:

Trying to keep your hands off her.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

But why was she trying to lift her skirt up while she asleep?

Frank:

Exactly.

Frank:

No,

Scott:

no, no.

Scott:

So I feel like the script maybe had a lot of that stuff in it and got some

Frank:

of the backstory, some filler, you know, it's missing some of the body.

Scott:

And also the only location was in the apartment.

Scott:

I don't know why they called it apartment 1 43, because they were very clear about

Scott:

how this is not a haunted apartment.

Scott:

It's followed.

Scott:

You

Frank:

mentioned that it followed from the house that they

Scott:

left.

Scott:

So a lot of tropes of things like that, that's paranormal activity right there.

Scott:

And

Frank:

almost one of the biggest things that I didn't expect.

Frank:

The professor when he's sitting there and talking to the dad, he

Frank:

said, there's no such thing as

Scott:

spirit.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

And then he went on to tell him about like the difference between a Poltergeist.

Scott:

And I was like, so whatever you just said is validated by the next things you said.

Scott:

And I mean, shit

Frank:

is going on in this movie.

Frank:

Things are flying across the room, down

Scott:

to it pretty quickly too.

Scott:

Like they got this.

Scott:

As soon as they walk in the door, the fucking apartment starts like banging

Frank:

professor seems to have his shit together, but he's

Frank:

telling him, but don't worry.

Frank:

It's not ghost.

Frank:

Like someone is projecting the subject manifesting parent of

Scott:

Fantasma Genesis.

Scott:

Psychokinesis tuna sandwich.

Scott:

No,

Frank:

uh, I was, uh, speaking as soon as sandwich, the first time after

Frank:

the sensitive picks up the spirit or whatever, and she's doing crazy

Frank:

shit and float and flying around then there's just that real silent scene

Frank:

where they're all eating at the table.

Frank:

And this is after the, the

Scott:

Spanish psychic guy was pretty good.

Scott:

He was

Frank:

pretty good.

Frank:

And that's when he got the first flash of the wide

Scott:

eyes.

Scott:

I mean, it was no archive 81 with that lady

Frank:

fucking eyes on this was more screamy, jumpy, shock, shock value ish.

Frank:

Straight gory,

Scott:

lose your mind.

Scott:

Crazy.

Scott:

When they finally got down to it and like the daughter's eyes turn white,

Scott:

and they give you the backstory, the really kind of loose backstory.

Scott:

And I thought that he had admitted to killing her.

Scott:

And then he was like, oh, and then she got into a car accident earlier.

Scott:

He'd said it was an

Frank:

illness.

Frank:

He kept saying it was an illness, but when he tells the story,

Frank:

she was just off the hinges.

Frank:

She was losing her job as a teacher, he had to take care of the kids.

Frank:

Apparently he was going to file for a divorce and ask.

Frank:

That came out.

Scott:

That was also one of the better performances in the

Scott:

movie was when he broke him.

Scott:

When he tells him what happened, the professor broke the dad.

Scott:

It was a moment of good acting cause fucking Rick Gonzales

Scott:

fucking failed in this.

Scott:

Yeah, he has.

Scott:

Fucking wooden and

Frank:

clunky.

Frank:

He didn't have the right relief role.

Frank:

Like he used to have, he was

Scott:

really good with the kid.

Scott:

That's kind of phony anyway, when people talk to children.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

But then he'd be like delivering dialogue and it was unedited.

Scott:

So there wasn't cuts in between lines or people's reactions.

Scott:

And it was funky.

Scott:

Rick is, Austen's an

Frank:

editor.

Frank:

It comes out, you know, so yeah, the wife, he caught the wife in

Frank:

bed with another man that fucking, the illness really wasn't a thing.

Frank:

But apparently the ghosts saying, take your hands off of her.

Frank:

And there's even the scene at the beginning where he sits on

Frank:

the couch next to his daughter.

Frank:

And she's like, eh, and

Scott:

did you notice that?

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

And so they, they did leave me to believe that he like had sexually assaulted her,

Scott:

but then she started screaming for him.

Scott:

Like dad helped

Frank:

me when she's coming out of whatever dark places is.

Frank:

She's like,

Scott:

yeah.

Scott:

So they were trying to convince you.

Scott:

She'd been in like a few state the whole time or something.

Scott:

I don't know.

Scott:

A lot of loose ends.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Doesn't that picture get hung upside down.

Scott:

Did somebody take the, uh, the wire off of it and Mount it slightly?

Scott:

Did the ghosty that, cause I mean the ghost deleted a picture of a computer.

Scott:

Just slammed the laptop, not all of the pictures.

Scott:

The ghost did delete one picture that you didn't want to get out the nudes.

Frank:

Like that's all my only fans.

Frank:

Um,

Scott:

the AC is broken and it's hot in here.

Frank:

No.

Frank:

Um, the AC was broken.

Frank:

The AC was broken at one point.

Scott:

And then I wondered if it broke in that shitty apartment they were

Scott:

filming in and they were just like, we're just making part of the movie.

Scott:

WIA keeps sweaty in his fucking suit,

Frank:

you know?

Frank:

I've seen some really good handheld movies.

Scott:

Rapey mother ghost is not my favorite movie ghost.

Frank:

No.

Frank:

And apparently wasn't even rapey at all.

Frank:

Which I mean, good thing.

Scott:

Was she trying to signal a Rapino this?

Scott:

And with the hand

Frank:

up, try to implicate.

Frank:

If that was the mom's spirit, that wasn't a spirit such as

Scott:

self-doubt or a, Hey, I like the thigh.

Scott:

The dad tries to go help.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Well, the father says that the mother was mentally ill and they didn't give

Scott:

any real reason why she became a ghost.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

You

Frank:

know, normally there's the unfinished business.

Frank:

Cause

Scott:

then she wrapped her car around a tree.

Scott:

And then the blame

Frank:

me the whole time.

Frank:

Well, always one of those big staples is it's unfinished.

Scott:

But it was being projected from the daughter, carried

Scott:

from one house to another.

Scott:

She didn't even die in that

Frank:

was the premise for them taking the boy out.

Frank:

They wanted to take him out of the equation to make sure that it was

Frank:

something in the apartment or one of them.

Frank:

Yeah.

Frank:

He

Scott:

mentioned that almost like I was like, you took away your golden ticket.

Scott:

Here is scared.

Scott:

That little kid, you scare me a little bit.

Scott:

Like I'm going to live through that kid now, but you took them out of

Scott:

the fucking equation when grumpy Brooklyn granddad came and then.

Scott:

We lost the little kid.

Scott:

That's

Frank:

pretty much that movie.

Frank:

It had a really short runtime.

Frank:

They, while it's an exorcism, I guess it's not an exorcism.

Frank:

There was no priest.

Scott:

So I feel like this was supposed to be more of an Exorcist

Scott:

kind of movie and it, they didn't do an exorcism or anything because also

Scott:

the daughter throws up in her cereal and then the girl like helps her away.

Scott:

After the white, I seen, she throws up in her super cereal.

Scott:

I have no idea what time of day beats

Frank:

the dad's ass while she's possessed, not possessed member.

Frank:

And then the shit out of him today, she fucking destroyed him.

Frank:

So then there's the awkward scene where they're eating and that's

Frank:

how the awkward scene ends.

Frank:

It's just,

Scott:

yeah, she's like throws up in her fucking bowl.

Scott:

And then she like smiles at the camera she passes by and then it cuts to a

Scott:

machine that's beeping in the living room that was called a Marco polo machine.

Scott:

Is that what it said on

Frank:

that?

Frank:

I saw the thing, but I didn't read it.

Frank:

Cause that's when, uh, the professor sitting next to the door

Scott:

because I was.

Scott:

Beep beep beep like across the room and then the

Frank:

little peg was actually stuck the whole time.

Frank:

And did you notice that I was waiting for it to pay,

Scott:

but what is the Marco polo machine do for

Frank:

maybe

Scott:

it does something with DVPs.

Scott:

Yeah, but evil, dead.

Scott:

Caitlin was pretty spooky.

Scott:

Oh, I

Frank:

like that name.

Frank:

Evil.

Frank:

Dead.

Frank:

Caitlin.

Frank:

Yeah.

Frank:

That's tight.

Frank:

Yeah, because

Scott:

she kind of had a dead I'd feel to her.

Scott:

She didn't know.

Scott:

She was a little bit like the dead eyes are always real happy to be there.

Scott:

And then it goes all three Stooges.

Scott:

No man.

Frank:

Very good.

Frank:

I love that shit.

Frank:

No, that's fucking awesome.

Frank:

Uh, yeah.

Frank:

And then

Scott:

at the end of the fucking movie, when she's like floating on

Scott:

like, you know, floating around, she like comes into the fucking kitchen

Scott:

and then they look at the camera and she's still in bed and I don't know

Scott:

what they were trying to get out

Frank:

there.

Frank:

It was like a projection.

Frank:

She was projecting the spirit.

Frank:

Because if the body's one place and then that's somewhere else,

Frank:

that's a projection, right?

Frank:

Isn't that the, the terminology for it, in these

Scott:

movies, in your bio, it's going to be like Frank explains

Scott:

unexplainable movies to Scott.

Frank:

I've seen enough of the shit it's been spoonfed to me for a long time now.

Frank:

No, it's nice

Scott:

to have somebody like rationalize because generally I want to like a movie

Scott:

I never set out to watch a movie and I'm like, I'm going to fucking hate it.

Scott:

Well, and you

Frank:

told me you're on the fence about this one.

Frank:

I didn't

Scott:

think it was a complete waste.

Scott:

It was fine.

Scott:

As far as like, if I had set out to watch like a horror movie, I didn't

Scott:

feel as wasted as you did on which was in the woods where you were

Scott:

just mad at the characters and just decisions and all kinds of stuff.

Scott:

But with this one, uh, you

Frank:

can't break through chain with a hood ornament, man.

Scott:

I would have been a little bit mad that I picked it, but I

Scott:

wouldn't have been at a total.

Scott:

Like, you know, I wish it had scared me.

Scott:

I'm

Frank:

no expert on those movies, but I love those movies.

Frank:

This one was not the worst.

Frank:

It was by far.

Frank:

I'm sure it wasn't, it's not the worst.

Frank:

There's several that I've turned off.

Frank:

They did not pass the 20 minute test.

Frank:

I was like, this is fucking garbage.

Frank:

Yeah.

Frank:

But this is some

Scott:

really good ones.

Scott:

Record was good.

Scott:

Uh, and it's a remake with Deb from Dexter quarantine,

Scott:

quarantine, quarantine records.

Scott:

He was real spooky with the feeling around in the dark.

Scott:

And there was like a creepy thing in the big budget.

Frank:

You've got Clover.

Scott:

That's one in a building, you know, one of the Cloverfield too,

Frank:

the Kickstarter Blair, which, you know, some other good ones that,

Frank:

you know, if you're interested in those alien abduction, 2014, it's

Frank:

creepy as fuck that one had a scene that it scared the shit out of me.

Frank:

It was just creepy.

Frank:

I mean, the way that they got me, I won't say anything.

Frank:

It was the

Scott:

exorcism of Emily Rose found footage.

Frank:

I, yes, that's the one where the dad was a preacher, right.

Frank:

Or something.

Frank:

I get the last exorcism and the exorcism of Emily Rose mixed up.

Frank:

I'm not gonna lie to you.

Scott:

Uh, now I don't know if I have a mixed up.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

See those fuck with me even the last exorcism,

Frank:

because then there's the last exorcism to which did you ever see that?

Frank:

No.

Frank:

Oh, man.

Frank:

Ending was definitely not original, but it fit.

Frank:

It was just, it almost gave me goosebumps again and that's,

Frank:

if I'm not mixing them up.

Frank:

Okay.

Frank:

Yeah.

Scott:

Um, I liked some bad exorcism kind of movies.

Scott:

You know, I love all this fucking Christian superhero movies they

Scott:

made with, uh, Patrick Wilson.

Scott:

What the fuck?

Scott:

Oh, they're just Christian superhero movies.

Scott:

Let's be fair.

Scott:

Those are the Marvel Christian movies.

Scott:

I've never

Frank:

heard that

Scott:

the Christian superhero movies a hundred percent.

Scott:

Okay.

Scott:

Well, what about the Warrens?

Scott:

Those people are pieces of shit in real life that capitalize on every

Scott:

little thing that comes along.

Scott:

So they made Christian superheroes.

Frank:

I've seen all those movies.

Frank:

So it's like something I'm Elizabeth Warren.

Frank:

Yeah.

Frank:

They're

Scott:

really, uh, like plugging their names wrong conjuring too.

Scott:

Was it the one with the house?

Frank:

The guy in the.

Frank:

Yeah.

Frank:

Who was the guy in the chair?

Scott:

They weren't there.

Scott:

The ghost in the chair.

Scott:

They weren't at that haunting.

Scott:

They were there for a day, a day, a day.

Scott:

And then they wrote a book and then they took credit.

Scott:

They were fucking there.

Scott:

They didn't, I still like the movies.

Scott:

Oh, wait.

Scott:

Or is it like Ted

Frank:

and Lorraine?

Frank:

Warren?

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

It's something like that.

Scott:

Nevermind.

Scott:

I liked everyone in it.

Scott:

I liked the movies.

Scott:

I hate the fucking Warrens, but that's just me watching ghost

Scott:

documentaries and shit like that

Frank:

shit.

Frank:

The contrary was like movie theater, theatrical release, big push

Scott:

me now.

Scott:

I liked those.

Scott:

Uh, what was the other one that he did?

Scott:

Sorry, the running backwards one.

Scott:

That one was fucking great.

Scott:

We're running back

Frank:

with malignant malignant.

Frank:

Oh, what the fucking tumor?

Frank:

The tumor.

Frank:

Yeah.

Frank:

Cause that wasn't

Scott:

different or

Frank:

malignant was insidious.

Frank:

Did you

Scott:

ever do in Sydney insidious the first day time?

Scott:

Shit, man.

Scott:

We're like behind her.

Scott:

Yes.

Scott:

Oh my God.

Scott:

What the fuck?

Scott:

I told someone about that and it scared them.

Frank:

I did get goosebumps from you talking to, so I didn't know about that.

Frank:

We were at a that's when we looked at the

Scott:

duplex game on Netflix, Netflix, and then I watched it

Scott:

go what's this and it's fuck.

Scott:

That was the same.

Scott:

I was like, yeah, that's what I was like, Patrick, Wilson's fucking in this one too.

Scott:

I'll watch

Frank:

that shit.

Frank:

I think it is Ted and Lorraine.

Frank:

Sorry,

Scott:

I can't let it go.

Scott:

It came around.

Scott:

Yeah, but I fucking hate him.

Scott:

What about in real life?

Scott:

The taking of Deborah, Logan, you talk about that all the time.

Scott:

I love the taking of Deborah, Logan.

Scott:

I thought it was great.

Scott:

See,

Frank:

so that's, that's a good one.

Frank:

That's paranormal.

Frank:

I like that

Scott:

creepy as fuck.

Scott:

The other kind of found footage movie.

Scott:

I think they've never really pulled off.

Scott:

Is the space found footage, movie Europa report your Rover report.

Scott:

Wasn't very good.

Frank:

Oh, Nice.

Frank:

You love Europa

Scott:

report.

Scott:

I was pretty good.

Scott:

Now.

Scott:

I was more for the Schreiber one that came out at the same time.

Scott:

Leash a sphere

Frank:

last days on Mars.

Frank:

Last days on Mars, that one was fucking good.

Frank:

That one was

Scott:

darker.

Scott:

I liked that one more.

Scott:

They came out like the same month.

Scott:

That's like fucking spaces on bees.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

I liked it.

Frank:

Spoiler alert, you know, conjuring, big money, Hollywood, big cast, everything

Frank:

taking a Deborah Logan snuck under, you know, the one alien abduction that

Frank:

I said I'd never saw shit about that.

Frank:

I've seen that one.

Frank:

I'll have to watch that.

Frank:

There was another one that I saw at 2014 hanger 10.

Scott:

Oh yeah.

Scott:

I like that one.

Scott:

Did you like hanger?

Frank:

They're out there?

Frank:

Metal detecting.

Frank:

So that's a good one.

Frank:

And then one

Scott:

of the, all those record movies, cause there was like record and

Scott:

then record on a plane and recording

Frank:

and quarantine too was on a plane.

Frank:

They did the same thing.

Frank:

Yeah.

Scott:

Oh yeah.

Scott:

The originals are great.

Scott:

This found footage moves are good when they're a subtitled because they

Scott:

work that way really well because sometimes they have to subtitle it.

Scott:

Anyway, this one, I thought about putting the subtitles on a few times

Scott:

because the sound was fuck awful.

Scott:

Like that was part of the reason I switched to headphones watching

Scott:

this movie was, I was like, I can't understand anything.

Scott:

Anyone's fucking saying.

Scott:

So

Frank:

I'm watching it in the living room only.

Frank:

I was trying to sleep in the bedroom, the dishwasher's going and it would

Scott:

get really fucking loud.

Scott:

Like the phone would ring for no reason.

Scott:

The ghost was calling

Frank:

so old.

Frank:

It had

Scott:

the old school.

Scott:

Oh yeah.

Scott:

Like the cream colored kitchen phones.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

So I'm the clear plastic button to hang up.

Frank:

One weird thing.

Frank:

I noticed one of my favorite kind of favorite ones was Phoenix forgotten.

Frank:

And it's it's about, you know, the Phoenix 97 thing.

Frank:

And now Phoenix forgotten was 2017.

Frank:

I'd also seen the Phoenix incident, which was 2016, and I've also

Frank:

seen the Phoenix tapes 97, which is also 2016 as I was taking down

Frank:

a bunch of these that I've seen.

Frank:

I had the oh weird.

Scott:

Hey, you love found footage, movies.

Scott:

You're found footage nerd, the

Frank:

Phoenix tapes in 97 and the Phoenix incident were both 2016

Frank:

and then released one year later is Phoenix forgotten in 2017.

Frank:

And

Scott:

they're not related in any way.

Scott:

They're, they're all found footage,

Frank:

movies, they're all found footage and they are all tied into

Frank:

the actual incident in Phoenix in 97 with the Phoenix lights.

Frank:

Are they all

Scott:

different store?

Scott:

Yes.

Scott:

That's weird,

Frank:

man.

Frank:

So why were there three of them between two years all have Phoenix in they're

Frank:

all related on the Phoenix lights of 97.

Frank:

Oh, that's bizarre, man.

Frank:

One of the only ones I'm interested in that could be completely

Frank:

there's one called the Garlock incident or something like that.

Frank:

It keeps popping up on prime for me, but it's, it's like stuck at 4 99 or 5 99.

Frank:

And I'm like, this could be a bust because like I've turned off plenty.

Frank:

And I don't want to talk about the battle ones besides the Bobcat Goldthwait

Frank:

there was a big foot, one scariest shit.

Frank:

Like it, it had a couple jumps.

Frank:

It was just cause they were aggressive fucking

Scott:

movie.

Scott:

This one fell short because it didn't, it didn't get me.

Scott:

I want to be got, I really do.

Scott:

Like I don't, I'm not, I don't think jump scares are cheap.

Scott:

No, I like slow burn horror movies, but sometimes I just want someone

Scott:

to fucking shock the fuck out of me.

Scott:

One of them on

Frank:

Amazon that says slow burn, it's called raccoon city or reconciled.

Frank:

And

Scott:

then the resident evil man, not

Frank:

even know, but it is a post-apocalyptic thing, but it tells

Frank:

you slow burn in the description.

Frank:

I'm like, well, if you guys are saying it's straight up, you know,

Frank:

I mean, how slow is the slow burn?

Frank:

You know, I watched one, these evil things came out at night.

Frank:

This girl is trapped in a van that rolled over the whole McGee has her arm.

Frank:

She's trapped in the van, fighting off these weird night beasts in a, in a

Frank:

world where nobody's like living normally

Scott:

anymore.

Scott:

Is it the night breed?

Scott:

It's like breed to Bergen.

Frank:

No, it's not

Scott:

Nightbreed no, no, no.

Scott:

You're going to touch something fleshy.

Scott:

No, no.

Scott:

The breed is the shit

Frank:

in case she didn't know.

Frank:

In case

Scott:

you, you weren't around in 80.

Scott:

Uh, we were watching dudes playing saxophone, no shirt on

Frank:

one of my notes for this movie was keep filming

Scott:

at the end of that movie camera.

Scott:

So they could do that cheap fucking ceiling crawl, maybe in 20 12, 20 11,

Scott:

not as cheap to do a ceiling crawl.

Scott:

And I

Frank:

knew it was coming, but do you want to know the truth?

Frank:

As soon as I saw it coming out, I hit back on the remote and I backed out.

Frank:

I was just like, it's over this movie, scared you.

Scott:

At times I ate an edible and this movie didn't scare me.

Scott:

I don't know.

Frank:

I was going to say, most people get begged to sit in a dark room.

Frank:

This movie will scare the shit

Scott:

out of you.

Scott:

I was sitting in a dark room.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

Dark room headphones, edible.

Scott:

Didn't get me, you know, what I wanted to be got to.

Scott:

I really did.

Scott:

And he begat him

Frank:

the psychological thing there.

Frank:

Cause I feel like I'm more likely to believe in ghosts.

Scott:

I think you probably are.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

I lived in fucked up turn of the century farm out and stuff like that.

Scott:

So maybe that's why I'm not as freaked out by stuff like that, because it was like,

Scott:

yeah, go in the root cellar Henrietta.

Frank:

No, no, if you like.

Frank:

Found footage handheld.

Frank:

This is, it's not the worst.

Frank:

It's fine.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

I really think they should have gone with a detective mutton chops that they had

Scott:

in one shot, like at the end, when the paramedics come and that detective is just

Scott:

sauntering around that the apartment while they're breaking their equipment down.

Scott:

And I was like, detective mutton chops.

Scott:

Does he?

Scott:

These giant fucking shops, the falling action after the climax

Scott:

was just fucking nonsense.

Scott:

Derek doesn't curl.

Scott:

I'm glad you liked that.

Scott:

That was fucking awesome.

Scott:

But I mean, we've talked about Patrick Wilson so much next time.

Scott:

We're going to do moon.

Scott:

Moon fall, which we both want to watch because Roland Emmerich

Scott:

is, uh, either, uh, American treasure or a tragedy, either way.

Scott:

I enjoy his movies just about every time.

Scott:

For some reason, if it's not for watching a bad movie, it's for watching an

Scott:

overblown blockbuster movie I'll watch.

Scott:

But this, uh, that movie seems absurd.

Scott:

And, uh, I like it.

Frank:

Did he do geo storm?

Frank:

He didn't do geo storm Diddy.

Frank:

Uh, I don't

Scott:

know.

Scott:

He did 10,000 BC.

Scott:

He did that.

Scott:

That was him pretty God damn sure.

Scott:

You may have to

Frank:

verify it.

Frank:

That was a Hollywood movie.

Frank:

And do you know what?

Frank:

I would recommend that as a family movie, I would tell families

Frank:

like on a Sunday afternoon,

Scott:

what, you know, when I was working at the video store, a lot of

Scott:

people would come in with their family and then they'd rent Apocalypto.

Scott:

They were riding that a passion of the Christ wave, where they were

Scott:

like, I know you have this other thing

Frank:

and then 10,000 BC, and then I'm sure there was something

Frank:

else was in the one Emmerich.

Frank:

No, no, just like that.

Frank:

Like you're saying, oh, he directed Stargate with Spader and

Scott:

Kurt Russell.

Scott:

Yeah.

Scott:

You didn't know that?

Scott:

Fuck.

Scott:

No, I didn't know that.

Scott:

And Stargate, the original Stargate movie is fucking fantastic.

Scott:

I, the TV show will always have a kid who doesn't have cable soft spot in my heart.

Frank:

We had so many good times fucking what's dark it's.

Frank:

That thing is for,

Scott:

it was mostly being really high in high school, but

Frank:

thanks everyone for joining us for the last video store clerks podcast.

Frank:

Be sure to leave a rating and subscribe.

Frank:

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Frank:

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The Last Video Store Clerks
With Frank and Scott
The Last Video Store Clerks try to figure out what a good movie even is in the age of streaming. Are there still Cult Classics with no shelf to put them on? Something is missing. Former video store clerks Frank Roll and Scott Moran aim to find it. Or at least, comedy and a silver lining. What is a good movie anyway?

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Former video store clerk, current sci-fi horror writer. Our copywriter, podcast editor, audio engineer, and resident bad good movie expert.