Beyond the Gates - "B Horror Jumanji"
Beyond the Gates is a low budget horror Jumanji full of gore, video store, and Barbara Crampton. If you dare play, beware the black metal guitarist lurking in your living room and Beyond the Gates.
Also, Scott has mixed feelings about Triangle of Sadness. Frank reviews Netflix's Boston Strangler movie.
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Beyond the Gates
[:[00:00:09] Frank Roll: Blockbuster, Hollywood and the independent video store are
[:[00:00:22] Scott Moran: Does this hold up? And just, what the hell is a good movie? Anyway, I'm Frank Row. I'm Scott Moran and we are the last
[:[00:00:37] Frank Roll: Where my head's been this week. I uh, I didn't even remember. I was still watching the last of us, like I feel like maybe I felt like I finished it just cuz everybody else is done with it. You never
[:[00:00:47] Frank Roll: range? No, I picked up something else. I started and finished something else. Yeah. Outer range might have been when Yell at us.
[:[00:00:53] Scott Moran: watching it as it was coming on and then you just.
[:[00:00:58] Scott Moran: jackets, but something. No, you were way done with Yellow Jackets by then. I was watching Yellow Jackets when Outer Range was on, and that was after you. The most excited. The most excited about that Yellow Jackets.
[:[00:01:22] Scott Moran: is that a line from something? No.
[:[00:01:37] Scott Moran: will get stung and you will fall down in your yard.
[:[00:01:43] Scott Moran: Oh, Kelly killed some outside and. She was like, I forgot about like taking off running. You know, when you get older, you don't just burst into a fucking runner sprint, like as soon as you're done. Yeah. And I'm not talking like older, older. Like once you pass 30, you'll find very few reasons to burst into a run.
[:[00:02:15] Frank Roll: think I'd, I climbed a tree to cut some limbs. I climbed the tree though, right? We're gonna go Uncle
[:[00:02:22] Frank Roll: I mean, I'm just saying like, I didn't really think anything of it, but the week after was fucked from climbing a tree, cutting limbs for, I don't know, 10, 15 minutes and coming back down.
[:[00:02:32] Scott Moran: last time I killed hornets, I burst into a run. I fell down three times. Oh, you told me. That's right. And. Fucking, I was sore. Not from falling down. It was from like just exploding into a run. Hey, we'd already
started
[:[00:02:47] Scott Moran: wasn't it? I think I may have talked about it on here. Well, I feel like
[:[00:02:51] Scott Moran: I think it
[:[00:02:55] Scott Moran: I was all scraped up and shit. Fucking idiot.
[:[00:03:02] Scott Moran: Remember when you moved into that house and I jumped on the trampoline. I was the first person to do it. I was like, I'll test it out.
[:[00:03:15] Frank Roll: yeah, if I jump off of something higher, it's more firm now. Like there's less bounce. It's just like thud, you know? It's not like you can kind of
[:[00:03:24] Scott Moran: Yeah. God. Yeah. Fuck. Well now that that's out of the way, what'd you watch? Oh, um,
[:[00:03:36] Scott Moran: I did. It's pretty weird,
[:[00:03:40] Scott Moran: it's a bunch of these. It was right before the pandemic, so it just kind of a vanished.
[:[00:03:48] Scott Moran: many questions. Oh, it wasn't right. It was during the Obama administration. It was like 14, right?
[:it
[:[00:04:05] Scott Moran: Yes, that
[:[00:04:10] Scott Moran: hunter shit is the funniest part. The Indiana Jones
[:[00:04:14] Scott Moran: That he just like miraculously found a piece. No. Everywhere he went, he was so good at finding it.
[:[00:04:26] Scott Moran: brought it back at the end.
[:[00:04:30] Frank Roll: Yeah. Like, and I thought it was gonna lead into, and this led
[:[00:04:44] Scott Moran: Yes. Her being like, I see something in the
[:[00:04:56] Scott Moran: I get that. But under no circumstance do that many people cooperate.
[:[00:05:08] Frank Roll: I feel like something's definitely up.
[:[00:05:13] Frank Roll: But, um, I mean I'm just, why didn't they go, they went back to her towards the end. But I thought it would lead to more anyway.
[:[00:05:20] Scott Moran: informed me it was a good watch too, because they seated that lady at the beginning and I forgot about
her.
[:[00:05:30] Scott Moran: Maybe a little more. I expected somebody to maybe go back and be like, let's see what you found.
[:[00:05:35] Frank Roll: once I saw her, I was like, oh, oh, shit. Yeah. Cause I was waiting and just, hers seemed pretty convincing to me. I mean, I'm just saying if you're out there looking.
[:[00:05:45] Frank Roll: the treasure hunter guy though. That was a bit odd.
[:[00:05:49] Scott Moran: That was the fun part because I was like this fucking guy. But I
[:[00:06:03] Scott Moran: Oh, I, American Accent. Kira Knightly. Never seen that.
[:[00:06:11] Frank Roll: the serial killer things that have happened in history, I've never really learned that much about the Boston. I didn't know that much about that situation. So MH three 70 was in a way, not satisfying, just because it's a mystery. Yeah. It's an unsolved mystery.
[:[00:06:40] Frank Roll: Yeah. Gene Coleen, Loretta McLaughlin. Mm-hmm. McLaughlin, I love, that's one of those last names, man. Okay, I'll let it go. Um, Ridley Scott was, uh, yes, I knew that's why he was bouncing in there. I know. Um, Ridley Scott was one of nine producers on this movie. I didn't even know I, I was watching the credits and I was like, produ, Ridley Scotts some money into it.
[:[00:07:10] Scott Moran: guess executive producers and producer credits are just Well, and that's the deal. They're just the thing that get handed
[:[00:07:22] Scott Moran: I think even the executive producers are not necessarily working.
[:[00:07:25] Frank Roll: were nine of them on this movie. Anyway. Good movie. But again, if you know what happens with the Bostons, a little bit less than satisfied at the end of the film, but uh, it had a bunch of people in it, man. Uh, Kerry Coon left out. I saw that. Yeah. Yeah. Kerry can, I've been in the same room with her.
[:[00:07:44] Scott Moran: you were in a scene in a TV show with. Not, not just you were in a room. Yeah.
[:[00:08:01] Frank Roll: Uh, but Chris Cooper, I call him Robo Cop three, the guy, you know who I mean? I do. What is that? Slimmer He. Thinner, thinner, slimmer, thinner. I knew it was there. Who? The
[:[00:08:17] Frank Roll: good. Well, it's in my notes. I put Robocop three. Then I also put Slater. From Dave being confused.
[:[00:08:26] Scott Moran: Bummer.
[:[00:08:33] Scott Moran: Lopez. Lopez.
[:[00:08:45] Scott Moran: but not a satisfying ending or are you talking about the docu-series? I
[:[00:08:53] Scott Moran: That's with a lot of those. Yeah.
[:[00:08:56] Frank Roll: And uh, I know, I just watched that one. Texas Killing Fields. Yeah. Turned out that was probably like a ton of people. They just, it was a area where they, they could do
[:[00:09:07] Frank Roll: don't know. Gra uh, yeah. Um, very intriguing docu-series. Good movie. Not disappointed with either one.
[:[00:09:14] Scott Moran: Uh, I watched a triangle of sadness. How
[:[00:09:18] Scott Moran: I don't know if I liked
[:[00:09:29] Scott Moran: The slowest part was the beginning. Okay. To be honest, if you can get through part one, Is part, which is like about male
[:[00:09:37] Frank Roll: Is it about a good 30, 45 minutes? Part one? It's an hour. Part one hour
[:[00:09:44] Frank Roll: I'm glad we didn't go see that in the theater then. I had no idea. I
[:[00:09:50] Scott Moran: Okay. It was so long, man. But it was all right. I mean, I would've liked, uh, three different movie. To be made outta that one movie,
[:[00:10:14] Frank Roll: Do you, do you remember who directed
[:[00:10:19] Frank Roll: like that.
[:[00:10:21] Scott Moran: flow. Yes, it does. Okay. Just ju I'm hesitant to call anything like that. Brilliant.
[:[00:10:31] Scott Moran: No, not really.
[:[00:10:38] Scott Moran: a major part in one third of the movie.
[:[00:10:53] Scott Moran: watch the movie, I like a lot about that movie, but I don't know if I liked the movie.
[:[00:11:01] Frank Roll: How many tries do you think it would take for me to watch a three and a half hour
[:[00:11:05] Frank Roll: this movie? So eight days, maybe 12 days, maybe
[:[00:11:12] Frank Roll: Uh, any, uh, anything else about it? Anything you've never seen before? Mind blowing? No. The, nobody lured a zombie away
[:[00:11:21] Scott Moran: There was a lot to like, it was just a lot. It was a lot of stuff. Okay. And,
[:[00:11:27] Scott Moran: No. Okay. It's not like, uh, yogos. Yeah. What's lo Look, I, I can't remember his name off the top of my head without having it written down right in front of me. But the guy who directed the lobster and, oh, it's not, it has that tone.
[:[00:11:54] Frank Roll: was that? Uh, Rushmore back in the. Wes Anderson. Yeah, so I'm o I, you know, I have my whatever yeses and nos with Wes Anderson, but Rushmore to me was always, I couldn't do it.
[:[00:12:10] Frank Roll: Okay. I didn't know you
[:[00:12:25] Frank Roll: ones.
[:[00:12:29] Scott Moran: I liked that one more than other people did. Darger. Yeah. Yeah. Royal Tennon Bombs is not my favorite of it. It's not my
[:[00:12:39] Scott Moran: I love life. Aquatic blows my heart. Also really long and did it for me the whole time.
[:[00:12:46] Frank Roll: you watch the newest West and Wes, Wes Anderson? I don't think I did. I didn't either. You know, some cast is, uh,
[:[00:13:02] Frank Roll: one to watch at Paramount West Anderson movies.
[:[00:13:08] Scott Moran: or whatever. Yeah. Another thing with those is like, a lot of times if I put 'em on, I won't actively watch them. Mm-hmm. At my house. But if you stick me in a theater, I'm so absorbed. That's why I think they're good theater movies. Well, hold
[:[00:13:24] Frank Roll: I did watch something else. The second Sakari, Sakari was good.
[:[00:13:37] Frank Roll: was okay. Yeah, it was okay. You know, I like,
[:[00:13:41] Frank Roll: sequel. I like Benicio del Toro. I'm a fan of
[:[00:13:49] Frank Roll: He's in the Goonies anyway, just want to throw that there. Uh, do you watch anything?
[:[00:13:58] Scott Moran: I had watched, that's some of it, a really long time ago. Yeah, yeah. In like the early days of streaming, I watched, it was a canceled TV show. Also, ABC aired it out of order and it's on Hulu out of order also. How does that happen? Really annoying. Why does that? I think they tried to kill it or something, but apparently they aired it in two seasons.
[:[00:14:32] Scott Moran: James VanDerBeek is in the show as himself. He's a main character as himself. As himself. He's her best friend. And Kristen Ritter is fucking hilarious in that show. Uh, oh my gosh.
[:[00:14:52] Frank Roll: Oh,
[:[00:14:58] Frank Roll: see any H HEB commercials.
[:[00:15:08] Frank Roll: a good one because No, I'm,
[:[00:15:10] Scott Moran: He does HB h e b commercials. Okay. Which I get it. AGB is the shit, dude. You go to other states, you don't have h e b. No, but good job. The beak.
[:[00:15:24] Scott Moran: Yeah, and Giant Eagle in Pennsylvania. I was all right with that. Yeah. I wish I could remember the name, but h e B is dope.
[:[00:15:38] Frank Roll: being a part with anything else, I mean, no true
[:[00:15:49] Scott Moran: Mm-hmm. That's Kelly's bag.
[:[00:15:56] Scott Moran: a docu-series, right? I think so. I am partial to the Taylor Kit miniseries. Yeah,
[:[00:16:08] Scott Moran: I mean, why watch a documentary when you can watch Michael Shaman?
[:[00:16:22] Scott Moran: The last murder docu-series that got me was the Richard Ramirez or uh, night Stalker.
[:[00:16:40] Frank Roll: Stop killing our kids. Yeah, man. Like the whole neighborhood's
[:[00:16:50] Frank Roll: want to know why?
[:[00:16:57] Scott Moran: on the news. The Night
[:[00:17:04] Scott Moran: That was the first thing I watched. It was recent. Uh, I thought like when you were a kid, you watched No, no, no.
[:[00:17:11] Frank Roll: I did too. I was in a bedroom, uh, with a TV that had like red digital numbers on the front. I'll never forget that either. It was very
[:[00:17:19] Frank Roll: Well, I remember cuz I'd have to change it to MTV for Beavis and Butthead. So I'll always remember like the numbers were.
[:[00:17:36] Scott Moran: I can't remember if it was when I was in high school or when I was a little kid, but I used to have one of those, it had the two dials and I wasn't really sure what the other one was for.
[:[00:17:57] Frank Roll: it did start in it and there was quite a bit of it and even, and it was big. Yeah, those were some long shelves. It's one heck of a catalog.
[:[00:18:05] Scott Moran: What were the weird flip, by the way, everyone we watched Beyond the Gates, if you didn't read it in the title of this episode, which is on uh, AMC plus, it'll be our last AMC Plus movie. Yeah, I think I'm done.
[:[00:18:19] Scott Moran: I could keep it another month and watch stuff like this because Shutter has a great deal of stuff like this.
[:[00:18:44] Scott Moran: I like that shit too.
[:[00:18:47] Scott Moran: this had a, uh, it hit the spot. Yeah. It had a Donna Cascarelli feel to it. A fantasm quality Old Fright night. Uh, I think I, I did, did aright night two. Maybe not Fright Night one. Uh, it's cool.
[:[00:19:00] Scott Moran: Yeah. Corn dolly. It was a cornucopia.
[:[00:19:09] Frank Roll: Hi,
[:[00:19:16] Frank Roll: K. Oh man. Your summary this time Beyond the Gates is about two estranged brothers, John and Gordon, who are reunited by the disappearance of their father, who has been missing for seven months while packing up their father's VHS only video store. They come across a VCR board game called Beyond the Gates in their father's locked office back at their childhood home, along with Gordon's girlfriend Margot.
[:[00:19:57] Frank Roll: Evelyn, what? We get to talk about her, right? Oh yeah. Okay. Have to. Later that night, Gordon wakes up to find the TV on in the living room. They call Gordon's High School buddy Derek, a police officer, to come look at the tape. However, Derek can't see anything but static when they find an actual gate in the basement, they decide their only choices to play, but each key comes with deadly consequences for those around them.
[:[00:20:20] Scott Moran: beyond the gates, was directed by Jackson Stewart, who co-wrote the movie with Stephen Scarlata. I hope I'm pronouncing that right. You think that's right.
[:[00:20:38] Scott Moran: He produced Joe de Rake's dune. But what I just said about producers earlier makes that a little
[:[00:20:47] Scott Moran: him like me to validate you, sir. It premiered in 2016 at the LA Film Festival where it received an audience award in the festival's midnight section. The movie Stars Graham Skipper as Gordon Chase, Williamson as John Bria, grant as Margot Barbara Crampton as Evelyn.
[:[00:21:19] Frank Roll: Creepy
[:[00:21:26] Scott Moran: Shop Lou to hashtag
[:[00:21:29] Scott Moran: Needful things. It holds an 83% Rotten Tomatoes critic score, which is astounding. The audience score is 29%, which is what attracted me to this movie in the first place. If the critics liked it, even if it's like 30 of 'em, and the audience fucking hated it. I have to see that.
[:[00:21:53] Scott Moran: 5.1 on I M D B. And that makes sense too. I feel like that makes sense. But seeing that high rotten tomato score next to that really low audience score, where's the disconnect? The disconnect is, there aren't as many people like you and me, so fair warning to everyone.
[:[00:22:18] Scott Moran: This movie is, it's a bee horror movie, but it was pretty fun and good, and I like when people make movies on their own. I like
[:[00:22:30] Scott Moran: had a certain. Clerk's quality to the dialogue. There were a lot of really long shots where there was dialogue back and forth, and to their credit, they did a really good job with that dialogue.
[:[00:22:51] Frank Roll: quicker. Well, Gordon Graham. His face, his facial expression. He's
[:[00:23:06] Scott Moran: Mixed with Dante. Yeah,
[:[00:23:10] Scott Moran: He was a certain
[:[00:23:17] Scott Moran: And I almost wish Chase Williamson was more of the main character of the movie, cuz I like him a lot. He did, he did good.
[:[00:23:44] Scott Moran: The chick what? Like Mandy. Oh shit. She was like the surprise, best actress thing and everyone was like flipping out. I don't know if it was like a race thing or anything. I didn't even read it. Most of those articles. Yeah. I didn't give a fuck no. Let the rich people tear themselves apart.
[:[00:24:02] Frank Roll: Went to UT Bria grant. Yeah, yeah. From Texas. Went to ut. Yes.
[:[00:24:20] Frank Roll: respect? No, no.
[:[00:24:27] Scott Moran: I like him, but I love John Dyes at the end. Yeah, but that's because I love Jason Parin, who recently got controversy for saying that, uh, lobsters are trash food and that we just think they're good because they're expensive.
[:[00:24:48] Frank Roll: man. The shit they'll pick out too.
[:[00:24:55] Frank Roll: good. Well, I've been telling you about his TikTok.
[:[00:25:12] Scott Moran: I love, love is blog, love, everything He did, it Cracked and John dies at the end.
[:[00:25:24] Frank Roll: I think about a meat man from time to
[:[00:25:32] Frank Roll: Can't do it.
[:[00:25:50] Frank Roll: Classic. Um. Who is the asshole guy? Uh, Hank. So final destination was one of his big credits and I'm like, was that the one with the nascar? Like the racetrack? And I was like, I feel like that's the one at the racetrack. And he's like a country dude at the racetrack. Was it? I think that's it. Bria
[:[00:26:10] Scott Moran: They were on a show called Rocket Jump that I watched on Hulu. It's probably still on there, but it's like they're making short indie films and they show you like the whole process of making it. And then they show you the film. Ashley Bunch who does, uh, alos voice in her in Horizon Zero Dawn. Mm-hmm. And, uh, you've definitely played a video game where she did a voice in it.
[:[00:26:56] Scott Moran: Oh. It was like that was the way she did it and it was hilarious. But a lot of the filmmakers in that used Bria Grant and Chase Williamson as actors in their movie. It was
[:[00:27:13] Scott Moran: Oh fuck. He is from the Signal. That's like the guy from The Signal.
[:[00:27:35] Frank Roll: Oh, the Relay. The newer one with the Timothy
[:[00:27:52] Frank Roll: I knew what it was. I watched it once and I watched it again and I was eating while I was watching it and I was like, oh, I couldn't like eat while I was
[:[00:27:58] Scott Moran: Yeah. So if anyone out there is wondering how I found this movie, that's how, this is the kind of thing I gamble on. Yeah. And it was. It
[:[00:28:13] Scott Moran: the ones I listed. I think there were like two or three more people in this movie total.
Well,
[:[00:28:26] Scott Moran: Yeah, that any cast that's that small is like a Covid
[:[00:28:33] Scott Moran: a cast. It was quality filmmaking though, as far as like, and then the special effects were cheesy on purpose, and I really liked that.
[:[00:28:48] Frank Roll: It's like a, yeah, it's like the, uh, good dialogue. The, the cheesy fucking dialogue in, um, Jennifer's body. Yeah, that makes me love Jennifer's body. Cuz
[:[00:29:02] Scott Moran: That was why I was so impressed with that movie was I was like, you fucking did.
[:[00:29:11] Scott Moran: Just any line in that movie. In that movie. Like do you buy all your murder weapons at home? Divo? Mm-hmm. You're so butch.
[:[00:29:21] Scott Moran: Exactly.
[:[00:29:23] Scott Moran: K E R. Underrated Adam Brody performance in that movie too.
[:[00:29:28] Frank Roll: the trees. I will follow,
[:[00:29:49] Frank Roll: Shout out. Little Hey, little honorable. Mention little Hey.
[:[00:29:54] Scott Moran: I also found out where the video store was. It's a real video store in, uh, Los Angeles. Okay. And they filmed inside of it.
[:[00:30:04] Scott Moran: shit going. It was a big one. You didn't normally see indie ones that big in cities.
[:[00:30:10] Frank Roll: here. I'm glad it was California though, cuz in my head I did think small town. But when they showed that house I was like, that feels like they're doing in this, in California. Cuz that looks like one of those older California
[:[00:30:21] Scott Moran: Mm-hmm. Yeah, for sure. Like,
[:[00:30:24] Scott Moran: but it's probably not huge. Barbara Crampton did her own makeup for this movie. Really? Yeah, because it was like a last minute thing, them getting her on board. So it's Evelyn.
[:[00:30:39] Frank Roll: It was almost like a floating,
[:[00:30:55] Frank Roll: Like you get scared, but then you're like, wait, is somebody
[:[00:30:57] Scott Moran: Yeah. Which is this guy gonna make his own board game? That's what the guy from Mayhem. He made a, like online role playing game that is not fun. And that's how we
[:[00:31:10] Scott Moran: just playing. He makes a lot of, uh, videos from his car. I mean, I guess if you're on the go, well, I mean, how far can you fall?
[:[00:31:23] Frank Roll: let's see, where, where are we at here?
[:[00:31:34] Frank Roll: Yeah. Unsettled, unsettled, unfinished business.
[:[00:31:40] Scott Moran: The slow clap hug, slow clap hug. Explain that.
[:[00:31:58] Scott Moran: It's just a pat and a go pat
[:[00:32:09] Scott Moran: slow claps, maybe indicative of their relationship. Actually, when you put it that way. What's ambient sex? I don't take Ambien, but. I think you do, don't you?
[:[00:32:41] Frank Roll: The thing with Ambien, it's one of those, you take it and go to, And you know, that's the whole stigma. Don't take it and miss the window. You start tripping balls, do shit you don't remember. You know, like almost like an amnesia state. My
[:[00:32:57] Frank Roll: That's what I, that's what I was thinking.
[:[00:33:08] Scott Moran: you know, did you notice their dad had a picture of himself in his fucking. No, it was just a picture, like he looks at it fondly and I'm like, that's his fucking room, room.
[:[00:33:23] Frank Roll: point. No, that is a bit odd. I didn't catch that. But, uh, I mean, she's trying to have ambient sex in the dad's bed, who's disappeared? And, and he's got a picture of himself
[:[00:33:32] Frank Roll: there. I mean, that office key was in a really handy spot though, huh?
[:[00:33:50] Frank Roll: This is comfy. Yeah, whatever. Wake up with the drool. Yeah, because you hit so far.
[:[00:33:57] Scott Moran: So the distance from the couch to the bed is just, it's a fall. Well, I
[:[00:34:03] Scott Moran: did. Yeah. Unfuck believable. That girl's outta your league,
[:[00:34:09] Scott Moran: Fine with it. Yeah. Suspend disbelief there. Well,
[:[00:34:18] Scott Moran: they started playing the game, did you notice that they wear the color of their Yes.
[:[00:34:25] Frank Roll: movie? Because she was red, but it was slightly pink. But you know, close enough and then, Gray. You know they,
[:[00:34:31] Frank Roll: they were similar enough. They were similar enough. Yeah. It, okay. So they start this game and then they turn it off and it's like, you can't just quit a haunted game.
[:[00:34:41] Scott Moran: rules. Have you never seen fucking Jumanji? Yeah. This is horror Jumanji
[:[00:34:49] Scott Moran: it off. To be fair, the only stakes she actually gave him were to say your dad's soul.
[:[00:34:59] Frank Roll: the noble one and when. Hank eats it in the bar scene, which we need to come back to. The bodies disappear, right? Well, when everybody's so soul is saved at the end, or you know, like cuz Margot comes back and the dad's soul is saved even though he can't come back in physical form.
[:[00:35:19] Scott Moran: That was the question I had too. I also was thinking about that was. It all really happened, or was it like, you know, parallel universe, Jumanji.
[:[00:35:33] Frank Roll: Uh, but your father's, you know, can't come back physically. You didn't mention Derek or Hank. I mean, and Derek was a cop. There's not gonna be questions
[:[00:35:51] Scott Moran: With a creepy guy.
[:[00:35:56] Scott Moran: Oh, man. What I liked even more was that because that was induced by a voodoo doll. Mm-hmm. The blood that came out of the voodoo doll,
[:[00:36:07] Scott Moran: They spurted the fuck out too.
[:[00:36:14] Frank Roll: I knew where it was going. Like you knew where it was going. Oh, for sure, because the cards looked like the. You know the Beyond the Gates Tarot. Yeah, included.
[:[00:36:34] Frank Roll: and break down.
[:[00:36:39] Scott Moran: pieces, three cards. Go find your own fucking key.
[:[00:36:45] Scott Moran: I liked the other one when it was in his head. His face ripping
[:[00:36:50] Frank Roll: That was nice and gory. The, the blood splatter and the just the intestines flying out. And even, did you notice that one where it's like somebody's pulling it towards the camera in the scene? Yeah, like that's how
[:[00:37:06] Scott Moran: Somebody was poking 'em from off screen with like a green stick and then they removed it. The
[:[00:37:18] Scott Moran: that? That was probably the same time I saw it, but it was still great.
[:[00:37:27] Frank Roll: maiden. Did you notice the length of the movie before you
[:[00:37:33] Frank Roll: an hour and 22 minutes. Yeah, an hour and 22 minutes. So there were still two keys left at like the 15 or 20 minute.
[:[00:37:48] Scott Moran: the game? They did it though cuz like from a storytelling thing, like the dark part where everything is shit. Mm-hmm. That's when Bria grant goes missing.
[:[00:37:58] Frank Roll: beyond the gates to the upside down.
[:[00:38:10] Frank Roll: But it had like a shock though, or like something Well, he jumped back for sure. I feel like it was more like a, ah, like it shot some, like a, I thought he was there.
[:[00:38:19] Scott Moran: like a good reaction, but it felt like a stab it a very like, you know, oh hey buddy. Mm. Yeah.
[:[00:38:37] Frank Roll: This isn't an eighties Stephen King movie. I don't know,
[:[00:38:47] Frank Roll: You know? I had a lot of knives when I, I never
[:[00:38:53] Scott Moran: And so you would get 'em. They were super illegal. When we were kids, we live in Texas, so you can do whatever the fuck you want here.
[:[00:39:06] Frank Roll: Yeah. Yeah. That, that was one of the things I bought. I bought it without them seeing, because they wouldn't let me get the bull whip that I wanted. What the fuck? So we all ended up with like a blanket and I had my, uh, butterfly knife. They didn't even know, man. They're like, nun. Yeah. Isn't it Del Rio? I think that's the name of it.
[:[00:39:23] Scott Moran: I got pretty good with one of those when I was a kid opening it and yeah, that
[:[00:39:29] Scott Moran: I can still do those. I smoked cigarettes for a very long time.
[:[00:39:40] Scott Moran: up.
[:[00:39:42] Frank Roll: would, in actual movies, I saw three. I think I've got, Connection in the universe to the movie Twister. My eyes fucking locked on it.
[:[00:39:54] Frank Roll: you? Yeah. Okay. My other ones that popped out were like home alone, but I'm pretty sure it was all of them. And maybe even like a couple, like duplicate, like there were two or three copies of one or two maybe.
[:[00:40:09] Scott Moran: I saw most of those, but there were some fucking made up ones too. The made
[:[00:40:15] Scott Moran: was that him? That's the. That was the director of the movie on the cover. I thought it was Derek.
[:[00:40:28] Frank Roll: Yeah, there was. I saw that there wasn't a lot there. Looked
[:[00:40:36] Frank Roll: Sorry, I'm reading through some of my notes here on top of it.
[:[00:40:54] Scott Moran: No. Oh yeah, I did.
[:[00:41:00] Frank Roll: And so I made a note like stack boxes, you know, question mark, fucked up face. And then when they're getting shot at with a shotgun, they hide behind the stacked up cardboard boxes. Like, like these are the motherfuckers that run upstairs instead
[:[00:41:21] Frank Roll: Yeah. That's a run upstairs.
[:[00:41:36] Scott Moran: long. The voodoo doll in the ground made sense, but then when that key was like sticking out of that, Thing in the planter.
[:[00:41:45] Scott Moran: the garden bed. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, ah, not as cool as
[:[00:41:57] Scott Moran: But when they pulled it out of the head, I really appreciated
[:[00:42:00] Frank Roll: Yeah. He pulls it and then it pops, and then the ros on the ground. Right.
[:[00:42:04] Frank Roll: blew up. Yeah. Yeah.
[:[00:42:14] Frank Roll: I fucking forgot.
[:[00:42:22] Scott Moran: free? Was any of it real or was it just the other universe of the
[:[00:42:30] Scott Moran: It, yeah. I almost thought when the game was over and they were waking up or they were in the living room and it was like daylight outside, was this all the same night?
[:[00:42:56] Scott Moran: No. Like how the vampire's stuff works, and I appreciate that. Level of movie is a lot of times I don't, you don't need to explain that shit to me
[:[00:43:09] Scott Moran: Yeah, exactly. Classy as fuck. I don't need that. I don't want to see the alien all that much.
[:[00:43:26] Frank Roll: be horror movies where it's the big reveal of the monster or the beast or the entity and it's
[:[00:43:31] Scott Moran: Oh man. Yeah, that that happened with the ritual, like in the. Did. I've watch that one. I feel like one, you never really even see the thing in the book. Mm-hmm. Like he never describes it, it's never fully in view, but in the end of that movie, they had to fucking show me. I was like, I don't need to see it.
[:[00:43:50] Frank Roll: scarier to me. Yeah. Sometimes you like the mystique, you know, you like the, the not
[:[00:44:04] Scott Moran: Because they were like, that looks like that looks terrible. Was it towards the end or something? It was somewhere, uh, flame thrower time. Maybe I
[:[00:44:19] Scott Moran: lately.
[:[00:44:24] Frank Roll: I'm an aliens. I was born. I was raised that
[:[00:44:37] Frank Roll: It was cool that I was brought up with both, but I was definitely fed aliens more.
[:[00:44:59] Frank Roll: Yeah. We were in Dallas. It's a quality like the,
[:[00:45:07] Frank Roll: really is. But because of where, cause where I come. Aliens is my, I
[:[00:45:20] Frank Roll: Look man, you, you haven't even seen the Boston Strangler yet. Call yourself. What kind of fan are you? Yeah, what kind of Ridley Scott fan are you? I've watched
[:[00:45:32] Frank Roll: Have you tried The Good Wife yet?
[:[00:45:39] Frank Roll: Okay. That sounds smart, but.
[:[00:45:50] Frank Roll: Well, best slow clap, hugs I've ever seen in my life.
[:[00:46:01] Scott Moran: And I was like, why don't let the guy who doesn't have a home live
[:[00:46:19] Scott Moran: I don't know. That was, uh, do you know what I'm talking about? Just like be movie acting. They went this way. He a little too long on the editing. That's what I'm saying. Like some of those shots, if you just cut the end of something off the film would've had, it didn't have the rhythm I wanted it to have, but it was definitely a pretty good, pretty quality filmmaking.
[:[00:46:38] Frank Roll: let me ask you this. Did you watch all the way through the.
[:[00:46:46] Frank Roll: There's something at the end of the
[:[00:46:53] Frank Roll: when they weren't doing what they were supposed to in the game, there was just like this.
[:[00:47:06] Scott Moran: I read somewhere that there was a little something after the credits and I was like, fuck. And I gotta go back and watch it. But actually I think my AMC Plus is gone.
[:[00:47:17] Frank Roll: You said it was uh, Tuesday, right? Yeah, yeah. Um, I think mine was probably today. That's why I was just so glad it, I would've rented it, but it would've sucked knowing that it was there like a couple days earlier. But mine was still there. No, and the only reason I let the credits place, cuz.
[:[00:47:41] Scott Moran: one more time. Yeah. That wasn't the kind of movie that I would've, I'm gonna wait around, see? Yeah. See if Ironman's in this.
[:[00:47:54] Scott Moran: but I liked it. I had fun with AMC Plus. Worth getting for a month or two.
[:[00:48:04] Scott Moran: did that many, I don't know. I'd have to count. We did a quite a few episodes. Yeah. Just off AMC plus, so
[:[00:48:13] Frank Roll: I got to dabble in what I thought I would like, chose not to follow through on
[:[00:48:23] Frank Roll: well see. I think I should have played on the shutter side more because I would always go to a m C as a whole.
[:yeah.
[:[00:48:51] Scott Moran: And we didn't know that it was gonna be this wibbly, wobbly thing that was gonna, things go and we're gonna have to go find it somewhere else. Yeah. And there's something about shutter by being like, you know, for this month, this is what we have. It feels like I'm being served like a, it's respectable. A nice meal of horror movie.
[:[00:49:16] Frank Roll: now is like, uh, all the evil bong movies are on Peacock or Paramount Plus, I think there's like three or four different, like I watched a couple of those and Weed this. We like these crazy weed horror
[:[00:49:26] Scott Moran: There was a lot of weed horror movies at the end of the blockbuster time. Yeah,
[:[00:49:34] Scott Moran: Yeah. Evil Bong for sure. There was a shrooms. You remember
[:[00:49:40] Scott Moran: remember it. Same. I couldn't tell you shit about it, but I definitely
[:[00:49:46] Frank Roll: And then you watch it and you're like, what? And you know, 10 years later it's what? What the fuck was that about?
[:[00:50:12] Scott Moran: They weren't put in the proper section. I know this one was on Iffc, not shutter. Mm-hmm. But this is the kind of thing I would find on
[:[00:50:24] Scott Moran: beginning of the movie. And this movie was a movie for horror fans.
[:[00:50:31] Frank Roll: music at the beginning and the end. Yeah, I like that. I found myself
[:[00:50:37] Frank Roll: workings of the vcr, the heads
[:[00:50:41] Frank Roll: 92, summer in 92 is when they opened the store.
[:[00:50:46] Scott Moran: That kind of threw me off at the beginning because I was like, I, I. From the trailer. I thought they were a video store clerks when it said 92. At the beginning of it. I went a large portion of the movie thinking it was still the nineties. Like that. It wasn't that far after. And then I was like, wait, they're kids In the beginning?
[:[00:51:13] Frank Roll: Okay. What's up with Hank's
[:[00:51:20] Frank Roll: they come back.
[:[00:51:30] Scott Moran: in the middle. But they gave him the like standby me greaser haircut. Yeah.
[:[00:51:40] Scott Moran: The outsiders, the pony
[:[00:51:45] Scott Moran: you walked into a barbershop and you're like, give me the Matt Dillon, but it's
[:[00:52:02] Frank Roll: Yeah. I'm just, man, they did Hank wrong. You know, Hank was, Hank might be the most. You know, performer in this movie,
[:[00:52:24] Scott Moran: See, I
[:[00:52:44] Frank Roll: I, I was like, he had to have been in one of these found footage, but, but he wasn't. I hadn't seen really anything that he was in, and
[:[00:52:57] Scott Moran: Well, and I
[:[00:53:00] Scott Moran: Yeah, for sure. Because he is probably our age. Yeah. But he, he could play at like a young twenties Yeah.
[:[00:53:11] Scott Moran: for you. That's people stumbling into it if you're into this kind of horror movie.
[:[00:53:24] Frank Roll: And just even seeing a video story with that many VHS tapes that, you know, it, it wasn't as prominent as we thought it would be, but. Just seeing it was good. It was cool.
[:[00:53:38] Scott Moran: store. Oh, that's what our video store's office looks like. Almost exactly like that. Like crappy, like home-built wooden shelves and old dos computers that had fallen apart. Oh yeah.
[:[00:53:57] Scott Moran: Yeah. We had to peel the thing off the side. We had that. Yeah. Man, I feel like we, we made everyone sign for their movies and it was totally futile. Like, how,
[:[00:54:08] Frank Roll: Because I know that we'd get a, like a, like a, you know, like a roll of it in the mail every now and then, and in my head I'm like, Where the fuck did that come
[:[00:54:20] Frank Roll: there's warehouses everywhere full of that shit and we're just, it's still there.
[:[00:54:26] Frank Roll: man.
[:[00:54:30] Scott Moran: you worked for a corporate video store.
[:[00:54:35] Scott Moran: laminate. Uh, mine had carpet that somebody had probably peed. Oh yeah, not ours. I think there was a time there were cats in my video store like that lived in the video store.
[:[00:54:50] Frank Roll: Um, like in Clerks, you can ask Olympia. Our candy room was fun.
[:[00:55:12] Frank Roll: didn't realize it had been there that long and I had seen a trailer for it at some point.
[:[00:55:17] Scott Moran: streaming for free. I wa I showed you the trailer a few months ago. You did? But then
[:[00:55:25] Scott Moran: Maybe. I don't know. I like a clinical trial movie and this sort of is, we may have to come back and do spider head sometimes, cuz I think Spider Head got a bad.
[:[00:55:35] Frank Roll: Hemsworth. I think we just watched it and then we were like, oh fuck. We should
[:[00:55:46] Frank Roll: Clinical trial. Oh, uh, what's that new one with, uh, Depp's Kid and uh, uh, top Gun Guy?
[:[00:55:55] Scott Moran: from
[:[00:56:01] Scott Moran: one. Oh yeah. I kind of wanna watch that. Have you never seen that one? It looks pretty bad and good too. Voyager? Yes. Voyage. Is it Voyager? It's got a weird cover. It's something like
[:[00:56:13] Frank Roll: I've watched it once. No. Alright. I've seen it. I
[:[00:56:19] Frank Roll: have some. I did my job.
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