Episode 46

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6th Apr 2023

Something in the Dirt

Something in the Dirt is a 2022 science fiction movie written and directed by Aaron Moorhead and Justin Benson. Discussing it appears to have caused a freaky lightening storm.

Is it a movie about a documentary or a documentary about a movie? It's the best kind of confusing.

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Something in the Dirt

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[00:00:09] Frank Roll: Hollywood and the independent video store

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[00:00:22] Scott Moran: Does this hold up? And just, what the hell is a good movie? Anyway, I'm Frank Roll. I'm Scott Moran and we are the last

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[00:00:30] Scott Moran: What

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[00:00:42] Frank Roll: cheese.

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[00:00:48] Frank Roll: cheese, Swiss,

Swiss,

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[00:01:03] Frank Roll: Yeah, so

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[00:01:14] Frank Roll: I definitely stopped watching it as they came out after the first two or three seasons probably, I might've made it four.

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[00:01:20] Scott Moran: it

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[00:01:26] Scott Moran: weird. We're to where Eric is. And I never watched it then. Mm-hmm. But it feels like after watching that much of it, I'm like, you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna see how it ends.

How

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[00:01:38] Scott Moran: I think they're fucking 11.

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[00:01:47] Frank Roll: without commercials or those minutes, they're

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[00:01:52] Frank Roll: That's the thing. I've never watched that on a streaming service, so I've never experienced that show without

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[00:01:57] Scott Moran: You can take a lot of it down really fast. No, but still like you'll look and you'll be like, I can't believe we're still in this season because of the 23. Uh, but it's fun. Yeah. I got used to the laugh rack again. Mm-hmm. It's hard to get used to a laugh rack sitcom, cuz we don't do that as often anymore.

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[00:02:20] Frank Roll: of Queens.

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[00:02:29] Frank Roll: That's the thing. I see these commercials for TV shows and I wonder, I'm like, is that a, is that a good thing right now? Is that a good show?

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[00:02:39] Scott Moran: Who are you making that for you if you made. You must be really, really confident. You know when CBS makes Quantum Leap, I get it. If you were in your like late teens, early twenties, when Quantum Leap is on, maybe that's for you. Maybe you're the one they're aiming at because CBS is, it's a lot of things, but it's definitely for old people.

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[00:03:05] Scott Moran: Paramount is sort of for old people. Well, CBS and sports, not on my radar. Is that, are sports on cbs? Yeah. I thought they were on.

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[00:03:15] Scott Moran: Do they all have sports? Cbs, Fox Big Five or whatever?

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[00:03:22] Scott Moran: much, but I think five is generous. The big three. N B, nbc. Cbs B. S in Fox. Yeah. I think it was because when I moved here, I had never seen the WB exist and I was in, I was. So how

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[00:03:40] Scott Moran: I, I had a, yeah, I started around the beginning of Buffy was when I moved here and, um Okay.

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[00:04:06] Scott Moran: Flight MH three 70. The Malaysian air flight. Oh yeah, the Netflix documentary. Yeah. It was like three episodes. I don't watch as many documentary series as you, but when it's fucking some weird shit like that, I'm there. Uh, I'm just burned out on murder. Was it intriguing? It was a hell of a story, man. It did.

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[00:04:47] Scott Moran: And you're like, that never happens. People do not cooperate. Oh. Different countries don't cooperate. It's kind of cringey, not even states, kind of cringey. It's definitely some weird shit.

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[00:05:01] Scott Moran: I swear. Sometimes things are intriguing cuz you'll just never fucking know.

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[00:05:05] Frank Roll: I've flown through all the true crime I wanna watch in a Netflix and think I'm

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[00:05:14] Frank Roll: Well, I noticed on H B O Max, the mur. Thing has a documentary series on there now, and I did hit play and it's completely different than the documentary that's on Netflix.

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[00:05:28] Frank Roll: It's a different, I only watched a little bit. I watched a little bit just to see, you know, what it was feeling like. We're

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[00:05:39] Frank Roll: because my mom, Hey, when your mom tells you that something's good, I'm gonna watch it and see if I like it first.

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[00:06:03] Scott Moran: This is weird. What'd you watch?

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[00:06:14] Scott Moran: We've both been kind of boring for the last couple weeks. I'm really excited about Yellow jackets. That's,

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[00:06:26] Frank Roll: We hang out with a lot of those activities this last weekend, so didn't have a lot of time. I put on a movie to watch before the little one went down so I could game it while she was napping. Never went to sleep though. So this movie that I put on just to put on to Bother Olympian, it kind of weird. I put on 2012,

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[00:06:42] Scott Moran: Yeah. Ended up I was like, what's it gonna be? I

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[00:06:53] Scott Moran: that's the name of your memoir, the Nap That Never Happened. The Nap That never

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[00:07:08] Scott Moran: It's Encino man, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah.

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[00:07:27] Scott Moran: 2046.

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[00:07:34] Frank Roll: the scale of, uh, asteroids hitting the earth? No. An Olympic-sized swimming pool could do some

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[00:07:42] Frank Roll: like that. No, no, no. But I mean, if it lands on land, like it could fuck

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[00:07:46] Scott Moran: Yeah. If it lands on your house. Yeah. Yeah. It'll fuck you up. Yeah.

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[00:07:57] Scott Moran: mean, I'd like to see it happen. I

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[00:08:01] Frank Roll: There's just like a

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[00:08:07] Frank Roll: They sent a ship out. I haven't heard anything back. Is it a mining ship? Yeah, they apparently something about a distress signal. Do they have a

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[00:08:19] Frank Roll: Hopefully we'll hear back. And they'll have their full load.

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[00:08:35] Scott Moran: was just out. Yeah. I've watched some random stuff here and there, but nothing, nothing to ride home about.

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[00:08:44] Frank Roll: Yeah. I was climbing up

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[00:09:01] Frank Roll: Uh, So I'll watch it. It'll get there the same way. I'll watch the, uh, the flight

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[00:09:11] Frank Roll: No, that's the thing. I waited till last night.

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Waited

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[00:09:18] Scott Moran: up. I really thought it was When you decided you decided to do this, you were gonna jump

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[00:09:23] Frank Roll: No, I was going to, and then I think, yeah, I've been tired for a while.

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[00:09:36] Scott Moran: like nice dinner movie,

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[00:09:46] Scott Moran: Just picture yourself as this person who should be chewing Valerian route to go to bed.

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[00:09:51] Scott Moran: More exercise. So this movie probably made you feel crazy. Yeah. When you first put it on, if you were that

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[00:10:00] Scott Moran: going. Yeah. This week we watched something in the Dirt, Frank, and when I showed him the trailer he, he was like, ah, yeah. He was making monkey hands.

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[00:10:17] Frank Roll: like a monkey fucking a palm tree

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[00:10:24] Frank Roll: Got curious, George. Over here. Oh

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[00:10:40] Frank Roll: were times when they would do the transition.

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[00:10:57] Frank Roll: And I was like, okay.

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[00:11:15] Frank Roll: that. Well, no, that's so a big part of that movie was the electricity and everything you're talking about like that some

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[00:11:27] Scott Moran: Hey man, did it get you? I had to stop and like fix everyth.

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[00:11:36] Scott Moran: after it happened. I was afraid of that actually. Something in the dirt begins with aging Los Angeles odd job, bartender Levi, waking in his dirty apartment. He's recently moved in and found the living room closet full of math equations.

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[00:12:28] Scott Moran: Taking place over the course of roughly a year. The pair follow a trail of clues propelled by arguable coincidences and escalating occurrences caught on film. The two form theories. Most of Levi's are dismissed by John in favor of his own, constantly shifting ideas. Kind of sounded like things he learned on YouTube today.

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[00:13:07] Scott Moran: And that summary is weird. Because this movie's kind of weird, but I liked it.

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[00:13:17] Scott Moran: about it. It was, uh, daunting when I was like, how do I summarize this movie? I didn't know how to fucking do it. Good breakdown. That's not to say that I didn't really like it.

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[00:13:30] Frank Roll: love it. I liked it a lot. I just, I'm gonna think. I respect these guys, man. I respect what they did. Yeah. Something in the Dirt was written and directed by Justin Benson, who also plays Levi and Aaron Moorehead, who plays John. The idea for the movie was conceived during the Covid 19 lockdowns and was shot over the course of a year.

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[00:14:08] Frank Roll: There are nods throughout something in the dirt that the two films are connected and exist in

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[00:14:25] Scott Moran: So it's a cult movie? Yes. Oh, and it's a weird sci-fi movie like this. Okay. Not as, uh, schizophrenic feeling as this one is because this one's a little more frantic. But they both play the main characters and they make a. There's a lot of the same sort of science going on. Mm-hmm. And they smoke some weird red shit in this movie at about the 50 minute mark.

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[00:15:13] Frank Roll: She'll get you. How? How did he happen?

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[00:15:20] Frank Roll: sketchy and he explained. Okay, so like, Why has he

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[00:15:25] Frank Roll: I mean, John explains the blood on his shirt.

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[00:15:28] Frank Roll: Okay.

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[00:15:34] Scott Moran: it's still, I, it came off as unbelievable to me because he was who he was. I think the

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[00:15:43] Scott Moran: was too dark. Well, I mean, that's just filmmaker shit.

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[00:15:49] Frank Roll: were so, so maybe that's why the blood was just that. I dunno. Call me crazy.

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[00:16:06] Frank Roll: and these guys, like you're saying, if the, you know, the idea of the movie was conceived during Covid 19, I mean an idea born in,

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[00:16:16] Scott Moran: Wouldn't that be weird? It's like helicopters going overhead and.

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[00:16:27] Scott Moran: of the planes was cgi.

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[00:16:32] Scott Moran: Like a little, yeah. The one that dipped real close to the building. Yeah. Because there was that whole thing with the, maybe that building is pulling planes towards it and that's why they're so fucking loud all the time. Yeah.

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[00:16:48] Frank Roll: You know what I mean? Like, the whole time I'm thinking something in the dirt, the electricity, I'm gonna be like, at the end of the documentary, I thought it was gonna be like, yeah, it turned out they were just in the, in that apartment, the radio waves hit and it just, it will scramble a person.

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[00:17:07] Scott Moran: The movie they made, or if I was watching a movie about them making a documentary. But also some of the documentary is in the movie and, uh, the weird point in the middle where someone was randomly like, why do you guys play yourself in the React? Like one of the documentary Yeah. Interviewees mm-hmm.

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[00:17:48] Scott Moran: On top of that, weirdly, visually stunning for a movie of this lower budget.

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[00:18:05] Scott Moran: I kept trying to decide whether that was them in the past.

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[00:18:10] Frank Roll: think it was. That's the thing. I think that was real home video of them as kids, but then some of it, you know, like they'd throw in the, the TV screen

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[00:18:22] Frank Roll: an Oliver Stone movie. Yes. Yeah. I was picking up some real Oliver Stone fucking.

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[00:18:30] Scott Moran: talking, while the monologue was going or the dialogue? Yeah. Yeah. It made the monologues real easy. Di to digest.

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[00:18:39] Scott Moran: character was speaking. Yeah. So it didn't feel like clerks where it was just two guys talking while they spoke cigarettes outside.

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[00:18:52] Scott Moran: probably three. I mean, I watched Clerks three recently. Still fresh. It's still fresh.

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[00:19:03] Scott Moran: There were a lot of little things that actually make me wanna watch this movie again.

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[00:19:24] Frank Roll: Did you like how they said Dana Fox and, uh, molder Scully, Dana Fox and Molder.

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[00:19:32] Scott Moran: his. In his interviews, that was why he wanted to do this was he was like, I just, I watched X-Files with my sister and I think those dudes pick up the acting better as the movie goes along. Mm-hmm. I felt the same way with The Endless we're the first scene, I was like, ah, these guys aren't very good actors, but they got it.

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[00:19:56] Frank Roll: Yeah. Do you think they're really kind of like that?

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[00:20:04] Frank Roll: in this movie, John freaked me out more than Levi. But I was ready for Levi to freak the

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[00:20:11] Scott Moran: I thought Levi was gonna be the super sketch, the less trustworthy of the two. Yeah. And I kept bouncing back and forth by, if we were with John, I trusted John for a little while. Then he'd do something really fucking weird. As soon as like, it was like solidified in the back of my head that like, oh, he's not, he didn't just go to some church group.

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[00:20:45] Frank Roll: Allister Crowley. Yeah. Um, I, it took me back to the episode of Drunk History.

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[00:20:58] Frank Roll: That's one of my favorite Drunk History episodes, and that's something I didn't know before. I watched Drunk History, so Thank you. Drunk History,

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[00:21:08] Scott Moran: Yeah. Sex Magic.

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[00:21:14] Scott Moran: definitely a classic. I meant to look up whether or not the 1908 thing was something John k. Hotel room.

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[00:21:31] Scott Moran: once or twice. Why can't Sam Earl Jackson and John Cusack make a good Stephen King movie?

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[00:21:48] Frank Roll: though. Well, thanks. Yeah, you let me borrow the cell. So I did read that before I saw the movie.

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[00:21:52] Scott Moran: of my favorite Stephen King books. The book was good. It was good. It was like Paste, unlike any other Stephen King book, heavily edited down just the meat maybe in the last time that ever happened to him.

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[00:22:14] Frank Roll: Yeah.

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[00:22:24] Frank Roll: The serious argument where he calls him a fascist, well, all the things said, but

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[00:22:39] Scott Moran: Yeah.

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[00:22:47] Scott Moran: Oh, weird. No, no. I'm glad you brought it up. It was the awesome heavy set black guy they were interviewing where they got his phone number off of Greystone. Yeah.

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[00:22:59] Frank Roll: Yeah. Um, Because it, it took me to like a JFK feeling like not, I'm not even like Mickey and Mallory feeling, but like a JFK as

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[00:23:11] Frank Roll: Well, or the, the way Oliver Stone did jfk the way like, you know, when Costner

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[00:23:16] Scott Moran: Well, that's what I mean. I feel like that's the basis of all YouTube video conspiracy theory videos at this point. Or just people who, what, that's how they make them clips of this, the way they do JFK Clips. Clips of this. Yeah, clips of that. Except not as good cuz there's no Kevin Costner.

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[00:23:33] Frank Roll: Anyway, let's not get into that. Don't get me off topic on Kevin Posner's three hour movies. Um, but no, I also picked up like some number 23 fields. Yeah,

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[00:23:53] Scott Moran: But as far as we could tell, Seemed like something was happening in that apartment. Yeah.

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[00:24:10] Frank Roll: He was there one night, that's enough for it to kick in. And then, you know, his neighbors down there smoking cigarettes

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[00:24:16] Frank Roll: Um, there was also the possibility of, was that his apartment before his, that was his handwriting. Some. You know what I mean?

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[00:24:27] Scott Moran: Um, and then John wrote in the closet at one point. Mm-hmm. Wait, wasn't that at the very end? This is at the very end of the movie. And that made me kind of think like, has John been fucking with his apartment the

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[00:24:42] Frank Roll: Maybe that crossed my mind too. It really did. Oh man. No, this, there were so many different directions you could take yourself while watching this, but I mean, that's what's kind of cool about it. This movie made me think so many different things. I, I didn't know where I was.

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[00:25:03] Scott Moran: A different director might have run me right out of this movie where I would've been like, I'm fucking over it.

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[00:25:15] Scott Moran: that the scene with the closet on fire from the trailer was like a trick because it ended up being a dream

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[00:25:22] Frank Roll: It wasn't an actual part of the story. I thought the storm was gone. The thunder, I thought the storm was gone and then it would

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[00:25:33] Frank Roll: start seeing some

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[00:25:38] Frank Roll: Well, and then is that a trashcan rolling right after the

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[00:25:48] Frank Roll: So we went from thunder to a trashcan. Rolling. That was a good transition right there. But, um, yeah, no, this, this movie took my brain to different places.

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[00:26:05] Scott Moran: the sort of phenomena you'd

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[00:26:08] Scott Moran: with this to a point. That was something I kept thinking, cuz you are always like, don't fuck with it. But I feel like you'd fuck with this one a little

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[00:26:15] Frank Roll: Well, what did he say at one point? It's a mixture of. Science and religion. He said something along those lines, wasn't it? It's a mixture of science and religion. Yeah. If you were to put it like that to me, when it, Hey, should we do like it's a mixture of sci, I'd be like, no. But if something was I, well, and they, it's this movie makes it so hard to even explain that hypothetical question.

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[00:27:01] Scott Moran: I don't even know how to explain it. It's really fucking hard to explain, but everything about it intrigued the shit out of me. When would you have left? Would you have fucked with it all the way up to the end when one of us floated away?

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[00:27:23] Frank Roll: Yes.

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[00:27:27] Frank Roll: Whether like the mimicked response. Of the happening the Beethoven song. I learned how to play that on a little keyboard for kids. Cause it's one of the preset songs. And I was like, I could do that. And I, I did it. Oh.

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[00:27:43] Frank Roll: you, uh, this one doesn't even have the lights.

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[00:27:46] Scott Moran: after. It's the, oh yeah. They didn't have those lights in the eighties.

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[00:27:51] Scott Moran: one. Oh, this is

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[00:27:59] Scott Moran: that it was either, is that thunder or is that guy's just rolling his trash can in a circle around the street?

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[00:28:04] Frank Roll: still, do you hear it? Is there a fucking tornado? Dude,

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[00:28:17] Frank Roll: the fuck is that? It's, that's what I'm saying, dude, I kept hearing it.

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[00:28:25] Scott Moran: We just paused for a minute because yeah, the, the thunder was so continuous and you may hear it in the background. Maybe that wasn't a guy fucking rolling a trash can, like we thought. Yeah, that was the

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[00:28:39] Scott Moran: was also like a strobe light outside and it just went for like, Five minutes solid.

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[00:28:51] Frank Roll: See, so that kind of ties in with my, don't fuck with it. Even us talking about it is fucking with

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[00:29:01] Frank Roll: don't gonna keep asking.

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[00:29:16] Scott Moran: what's gonna get you. The end is nah,

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[00:29:22] Frank Roll: What the fuck? What does that mean? I like kneehigh socks. Kneehigh endings. Oh, knee high endings. What does it mean? Okay, Kneehigh.

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[00:29:49] Frank Roll: the equivalent of, uh, lost time during an ab abduction type instance. You know, the. The, uh, the idea of lost time when you're being abducted.

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[00:30:04] Scott Moran: say it. Like the happening, careful what you say are the lightning will bitch.

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[00:30:15] Frank Roll: You know what I mean? Like, that was some, I'm

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[00:30:27] Frank Roll: was War of the World's Tom Cruise shit happening outside that those last couple bright bursts, the houses behind you were like,

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[00:30:35] Scott Moran: Would it be so crazy if right now a fucking air raid siren started going,

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[00:30:43] Scott Moran: gonna hide. The only reason I didn't forget was not so much as one siren. They wouldn't come to our neighborhood anyway. Podcast from a dark and stormy night.

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[00:30:56] Scott Moran: I didn't think this was gonna

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[00:31:05] Scott Moran: But yeah, the weightlessness was one of the weirder things. If I knew whether or not to know whether it was real, it would be so much weirder to me.

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[00:31:18] Frank Roll: And. You mentioned it, but the trailer that we saw, that one scene completely misled me.

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[00:31:28] Frank Roll: It wasn't in a bad way, but because I had that expectation and then the way that it started and then the flow that came shortly after, um, that's what she said.

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[00:31:43] Scott Moran: I could dig it. This had a found footage quality that I thought should appeal to you. You know, when I was watching it, I was like, I wonder if this is almost found footage enough for Frank. It was almost great. It was like a big budget movie version of a found footage movie buried inside a taco.

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[00:31:59] Frank Roll: wasn't quite grainy enough. Um,

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I'll

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[00:32:11] Scott Moran: you think that Levi floated away? Yeah. I guess in the context of the film, we may have watched. He definitely floated away and then fell right there in the desert.

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[00:32:21] Frank Roll: because before, okay, so towards the end, uh, the ashtray there, the half orb, whatever we want to call

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[00:32:36] Frank Roll: Whatever's. I think we have whatever's handy on our back porch with rocks in it right now actually. But, uh, no, when that came shooting down and hit the ground, you saw Levi in front of the moon prior. So, well, the visual

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[00:32:51] Frank Roll: kill this guy.

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[00:33:01] Scott Moran: I say the way I felt was that we watched a movie that was made by these two guys. Mm-hmm. That started out being a documentary, but then they got outta control and the one guy started turning it into like an unbelievable documentary.

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[00:33:21] Frank Roll: didn't really have top, top-notch screen since.

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[00:33:32] Frank Roll: but at the same time there was one particular, well, I guess they showed it more than once.

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[00:33:42] Scott Moran: was what I was gonna ask you, Mr. Explainer, when was that? So was that while they were still making the movie or did Levi Never

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[00:33:59] Scott Moran: That's the way I felt.

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[00:34:09] Scott Moran: You did. Funny.

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[00:34:22] Frank Roll: By the end of the movie, I'm like, was him dying? Just part of a fictional movie inside the. And or documentary, and that clearly shows that he's alive and well. The

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[00:34:51] Scott Moran: They hired, he's gone. We're getting into like a philosophical conversation, but then they show him in what, let's, am I ahead in a jar? Can I prove I'm not?

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[00:35:05] Scott Moran: the hospital or in prison.

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[00:35:07] Frank Roll: But the background definitely wasn't the a. One or the other, or the courtyard. It wasn't one of their normal filming

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[00:35:16] Frank Roll: clothes that clean. That was an extremely clean white hoodie. That's, I don't know about that. I don't, I.

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[00:35:27] Scott Moran: Post floated that, that wrap up that time. Levi floated away, man.

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[00:35:49] Frank Roll: In a weird way. Yeah,

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[00:35:54] Frank Roll: in, maybe he, you know, quit the drink. You know, he quit cigarettes and drinking at the same time. You know, he exfoliated a bit, went to a day, spa a couple times, started drinking protein shakes, working out on a regular basis, eating healthy, getting vitamin D from the sun.

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[00:36:12] Frank Roll: He even looked, His scruffy was more clean. His scruffy was

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[00:36:22] Frank Roll: like some dude who lives in

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[00:36:30] Frank Roll: Levi.

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[00:36:36] Scott Moran: Yeah. If you look at a picture of him, Justin Benson in real life,

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[00:36:45] Frank Roll: Okay.

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[00:37:02] Frank Roll: I think it all ties into, uh, dedicating the film to making movies

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[00:37:07] Scott Moran: I liked how comfortable those guys were with each other. Yeah. And you could see it on film. Yeah, exactly. How much, like they still had that like, vibe of like, I'm gonna get, I'll get in an argument with you right now. Mm-hmm. But I love you, man. You know? Yeah. And you could feel it, even though they didn't trust each other.

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[00:37:34] Frank Roll: pretty fucking bad. But this movie had. I like how they kind of esta like it wasn't gonna be like an evil spirit situation. It wasn't gonna be a haunting, it wasn't gonna be a possession. It wasn't gonna be like a curse. It is crazy that it's like a, you know the idea is science and

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[00:37:52] Scott Moran: But was that in the movie? Because John put it there. What about all that stuff that they were saying about like when John was in control of the movie? Did that make you think that maybe what we're seeing is the end result of somebody put their thing. After all of this, somebody else did it. Yeah. Why did they keep saying that, John?

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[00:38:21] Frank Roll: Yeah. I love how you have Pop-Tarts handy.

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[00:38:28] Scott Moran: Sorry, I just couldn't, I'm so, I now I bring a snack in here with me when I just before you get here

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[00:38:38] Scott Moran: right there? Yeah, they're ready to go. Sometimes it's a cliff bar, you know.

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[00:38:46] Scott Moran: me.

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[00:38:47] Frank Roll: in here. I mean, it's over there sparkling like the Roswell, Roswell.

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[00:38:56] Frank Roll: where were we at? I'm sorry. I did that. It was the pockets.

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[00:39:04] Scott Moran: They all float. They all float at the end. You all floated too. One grew in the closet. Yeah. Grew in there. That was the weirdest

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this

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[00:39:26] Scott Moran: And

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[00:39:44] Scott Moran: And where did he find the tablet?

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[00:39:48] Frank Roll: The floating door is where he found the tablet, but, okay. So I did it, the very few notes that I have. Why did he lie about the floating door being open? Because he's like, yeah, just, oh, and then he, he cut it open, wide open. But then it shows the clip of him cutting it with a lock with bolt cutters to get into the floating

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[00:40:04] Scott Moran: And if we are watching the movie that they made, why would he tell us and then show the lie? Somebody else made the movie and put it together and wanted to make sure you knew John was not trustworthy. Man, the narrators of the movie are just so fucking unreliable that it makes me really excited. Well,

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[00:40:25] Frank Roll: Was this a found footage? Was, is it a found

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[00:40:32] Frank Roll: found footage, then it is. Okay, so here's the other thing with that. Okay. When it's a found footage,

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[00:40:43] Frank Roll: Okay. Look, we're gonna need these guys to explain it to us.

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[00:40:52] Frank Roll: Tell us. Tell us your.

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[00:41:00] Frank Roll: South by Southwest probably. There were so many people at this year South by. I was like, what the fuck? I mean,

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[00:41:08] Frank Roll: Oh, I just mean celebrities.

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[00:41:13] Frank Roll: The talent this year, do you? I like South by South by brings a ton of talent. It's just a thing, right? Music, tv, film, tech, everything.

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[00:41:26] Frank Roll: I couldn't begin to tell you how many actors, actresses, musicians I've seen doing interviews at South By Boots.

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[00:41:50] Frank Roll: His wife was like, this is the first time I've been to been to Texas. I'm like, oh shit, really? Um, not even Dallas, like it's still part of Texas.

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[00:42:04] Frank Roll: money in Dallas. But that's the thing. Celebrities, you go to Dallas Sports Dallas, finance Dallas.

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[00:42:17] Frank Roll: probably would've been a lot of edit. And there probably

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[00:42:35] Scott Moran: Well,

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[00:42:40] Scott Moran: And it very much felt like they made it for themselves that no one would. Like paid to have this movie made. Love

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[00:42:56] Scott Moran: Yeah. It's one of those like crazy things that like, it's really hard to explain to somebody. Mm-hmm. That's the other thing is like, how, how would you pitch this movie to like a Hollywood like movie studio? That's what I'm, they'd want and be like, give me money. It's about these two guys that live in an apartment and fucking crystals grow in the closet and gravity is changing and the planes are getting pulled towards the house and it's like a documentary.

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[00:43:24] Frank Roll: deal is a, they'd buy him out. They'd, they'd flip it around to where it's not as like, uh, indie creepy characters, you know, like, oh, this guy could be kind of rapy or like, uh, and it

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[00:43:36] Frank Roll: murdery, you know, whatever.

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[00:43:45] Scott Moran: Or maybe they did, maybe they shot several endings to this cuz it was their fucking movie. You know? And

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[00:43:54] Frank Roll: You know? It could always be aliens. Especially this is a good lead up to it's aliens. If you really wanted to, you know, you could go be whore big studio backing aliens. Just throwing a good twist at the end. Don't fuck It's aliens. I

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[00:44:12] Frank Roll: back away to me, uh, just offhand, the, the, what is it, A fox, the picture of a fox or wolf or whatever at the beginning.

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[00:44:24] Scott Moran: that leaves. I was just like to point out this, the second time you didn't identify a coyote in an episode.

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[00:44:32] Scott Moran: I don't know. You kept saying that they hit a wolf in the invitation and I was like, no. And it's a fucking wolf. I mean, it's a wolf with their car.

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[00:44:43] Frank Roll: their car. So it was a fox, um, it was a coyote Look, I swear, I know what a bobcat looks like. Okay. Um, no, but I mean, that's, you could have left that wide open for them going up that hill, pursuing something up the hill at the end. The hill has mentioned several times they got a free fire.

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[00:45:23] Frank Roll: Designed

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[00:45:30] Frank Roll: apartment. Yeah. So, uh, you know, don't fuck with it too much. See what I'm

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[00:45:35] Frank Roll: city. We just talked about your movie and fucking aliens came outside all over the place, dude.

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[00:45:41] Scott Moran: yeah. So props to you.

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[00:45:47] Scott Moran: That was a really creepy thunderstorm. It's one of the craziest thunderstorms I've seen in my life and I've lived most of my life in either Texas or Pennsylvania. Yeah, really? Both are the craziest fucking thunderstorms.

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[00:46:07] Scott Moran: the question you at home or in your car should be asking yourself was, did we fake the thunderstorm or is it real?

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[00:46:24] Scott Moran: So go back in your meteorological calendar, find what day it rained, and there was a creepy thunderstorm in Austin, Texas, and you'll know what day it is now, but that's the day we weren't home.

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[00:46:54] Frank Roll: was probably a a dash of this and that here and there.

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[00:46:57] Scott Moran: I'm sure. I'd like to bring my questions to the beginning of the movie again and see what possibly be answered in the beginning, or if these guys just are fucking mad geniuses and set out into the dark making this thing and they were like, let's just see what. And then by the end of it, they were like, oh, that's

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[00:47:17] Frank Roll: Imagine just having a cigarette and then you're gone and you're just like reaching and you can't grab the ground and you keep floating. Well, like he mentioned, did he probably suffocated or froze from high

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[00:47:33] Scott Moran: They're

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[00:47:35] Scott Moran: five road. You run into something and it pops your suit and you get Justin. Mr. Justin from the event Horizon Baby Bear.

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[00:48:09] Scott Moran: But it's got the guy who played John and John or uh, the guy who played Dave and John dies at the

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[00:48:16] Scott Moran: I looked it saw that quality of like, it kinda looks like a Don Costelli level movie. Can't wait for it. I think it'll be really fun, especially after this. I like that we're watching some indie stuff.

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[00:48:34] Frank Roll: I saw that TikTok about that other fucking found footage I'd never heard of before. I got excited. What was

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[00:48:43] Scott Moran: Are you. It says the devil is in my house and he killed my mom and replaced her with a goat. Did he look like Devin

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[00:49:01] Scott Moran: They looked like they had a lot of fun doing well. It looks like they had fun doing it.

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[00:49:13] Frank Roll: was great that they got to do this together. There's obviously, you know, they bond

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[00:49:26] Scott Moran: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They, they wrote and directed that, and that has a fucking avenger in it. Mm-hmm. But it's not very good. Yeah. No, it wasn't my favorite. It was kinda long-winded. This could have been long-winded, but it, it felt really passionate,

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[00:49:45] Scott Moran: Yeah. But I didn't feel like I was waiting for it to end, and I very much. Synchron. Also, synchron has a weird name that's too close to Synchronicity, which is a movie by the guys that directed Primer, which is very much this genre of movie. One day we'll have to get you to watch Primer cuz primer is like this real tight, real tight story.

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[00:50:06] Frank Roll: Primer 55? Is it a rap metal band? No. Remember that one? There was that. Like I dated like a long time ago and it turned out she did something with the drummer and I just thought that was fucking hilarious. Cause I was like, that's such a random band. But the drummer

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[00:50:27] Frank Roll: you a drummer.

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[00:50:35] Scott Moran: I was very young. She's lick her buttal.

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[00:50:44] Scott Moran: What the fuck does that

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[00:50:48] Scott Moran: Look at your daughter, goes to a magnet school. Why

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[00:51:00] Frank Roll: It's just a fun way to end. Thanks everyone for joining us. For the last Video Store Clerks podcast, be sure to leave a rating and subscribe. You can find us on Twitter at Last Clerks Instagram at the last video store clerks, and you can find Scott at dispatchesfromthepit.com.

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About the Podcast

The Last Video Store Clerks
With Frank and Scott
The Last Video Store Clerks try to figure out what a good movie even is in the age of streaming. Are there still Cult Classics with no shelf to put them on? Something is missing. Former video store clerks Frank Roll and Scott Moran aim to find it. Or at least, comedy and a silver lining. What is a good movie anyway?

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Scott Moran

Former video store clerk, current sci-fi horror writer. Our copywriter, podcast editor, audio engineer, and resident bad good movie expert.