Episode 45

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23rd Mar 2023

Near Dark - Bill Paxton, American Treasure

Near Dark is the first solo outing as a director for Kathryn Bigelow. Featuring half the cast of Aliens with a show stealing performance by Bill Paxton.

Near Dark is available to stream on AMC+

Yes, we said we were doing Skinamarink, but Frank, who was crazy excited to watch it, deemed it unwatchable. Sorry.

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Near Dark

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[00:00:09] Frank Roll: Blockbuster Hollywood and the independent video store are

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[00:00:22] Scott Moran: Does this hold up? And just, what the hell is a good movie? Anyway, I'm Frank Roll. I'm Scott Moran and we

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[00:00:36] Frank Roll: I wave and went to sleep at 10 30 on a Monday

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[00:00:54] Frank Roll: got sleepy two dozed off 2 33.

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[00:01:05] Scott Moran: was the movie we were gonna do this week. We were gonna do Skin and Marine. I never got a chance to, to give it a go. Yeah, let's, yeah, just, Frank called me. He, he called me to be like, I don't wanna watch.

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[00:01:19] Frank Roll: Look, you're saying that you called

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[00:01:30] Frank Roll: I, I struggled with it, but I gave you the pre-call because I wanted to save

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[00:01:38] Scott Moran: Yeah. Wasn't super into Mandy, but I liked the beginning and I liked the end. The middle. I could take a nap. I don't, did I do Mandy? I don't know. Is the Nicholas Cage I know. Yeah,

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[00:01:54] Scott Moran: Willie's Wonderland. My point was I made my wife watch it. We were still dating at the time, I think, but, uh, I won't do that to her again.

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[00:02:14] Frank Roll: it that it's better than Willie's Wonderland.

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[00:02:19] Scott Moran: Okay. But that guy's other movie, I didn't like that one either. What was his other movie doing? Uh, it was like, Black rainbow or something like that. Oh, it's kind of psychotronic. Mm-hmm. But I did watch. Infinity Pool, which hat? That sort of quality to it. I fucking loved that movie. It's gross and kind of hot.

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[00:02:52] Frank Roll: scary too, man. I mean the first thing I really noticed her in was what was Cure for Wellness.

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[00:03:13] Scott Moran: Reminds me though.

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[00:03:15] Scott Moran: it's still for rent for 5 99. Did you watch it? I haven't watched it yet. I was waiting for it to go down and then I paid $10 cause it was my fucking birthday to watch Infiniti pool. And it was worth 10 bucks. Yeah,

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[00:03:30] Frank Roll: Uh, what else? Uh, did something

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[00:03:44] Frank Roll: That movie was, when I watched it when I was young, I understood

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[00:03:50] Scott Moran: And maybe that's the point. It's weird seeing those dudes so old. It was nice to finish the story. Oh, did they finish it? Yeah, it's over. Okay. That's the end of the story, so it's worth watching if you want. Honestly, it's fucking sad, dude. This is a sad. Suzanne . I wish that it had a little more silliness in it.

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[00:04:21] Frank Roll: I think I needed to do a marathon and see how

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[00:04:25] Scott Moran: In Clerks three, I will say they make clerks one, so that's like where the story goes is Randall. it is like, I could make a fucking movie. Fuck, man. Spoiler alert. I mean, that's the entire plot of the movie , Suzanne, I, I, you, you don't come from a Kevin Smith movie like that for anything but dialogue. I wish that it was a little more, a little less heartfelt and a little more toothy, you know?

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[00:04:56] Frank Roll: raking

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[00:05:01] Scott Moran: anything else? Yes. Uh, history of the World. I haven't watched the last two episodes of it. History of World Part Two. Yeah. The, it's, haven't read about that. It's fucking great, dude. Cool. It's exactly what it would've been. Mel Brooks does the narration and everything. Sweet. Yeah.

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[00:05:16] Scott Moran: Nick Kroll is a show stealer. Really? He does that like over pronunciation of words. Jack Black's in it. Uh, Wanda Sykes, Ike, the guy from Mad tv. He seemed instrumental. Making a thing. He's in almost all of the sketches. Okay. I, I wish I could remember his last name. I wish

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[00:05:36] Frank Roll: I went to sleep watching World War II and Color because I'm 70

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[00:05:55] Frank Roll: too. And he's a good guy.

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[00:05:59] Scott Moran: Yes. So is Jack Black and Dave Grol and Ryan Reynolds. Seth

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[00:06:07] Scott Moran: Ribisi. Seth Rogans also makes an appearance in history of the world. Oh really? Yeah. There's a lot of people in it like, like so many.

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[00:06:21] Frank Roll: And I felt like, I don't know. There were a lot more Seth

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[00:06:29] Frank Roll: Oh no. Okay. You doubled back.

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[00:06:38] Scott Moran: We do this pless, no skin. Yeah,

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[00:06:45] Scott Moran: is amazing. Well, I think you really wanted to believe that that was a found footage movie. Not even a found

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[00:06:53] Scott Moran: Well, that's the thing was the fucking marketing for that movie was nothing. And that's what I said when you sent me the trailer that first time, you were like, no, look at this. And I was like, I mean, that's nothing. That's a bunch of shitty camera shots of nothing. I guess the music's scary.

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[00:07:10] Frank Roll: That's a handheld found footage. . It was God, it scared, it scared me at times. And it, well,

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[00:07:24] Frank Roll: No man. I made it 20, 30 minutes and I was like, just turn it off.

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[00:07:32] Scott Moran: minute gap, if it was another movie, I would've been like, you're gonna fucking watch it and then like just watched it anyway. But that one. Already walking around being like, I don't wanna watch this fucking

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[00:07:44] Frank Roll: Like I was, I was kind of having a down day. I called you at lunch because part of me was like, no. And that's what I said. Maybe we should watch it just to talk about how we feel, but I was like, or I could just save us an hour

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[00:08:02] Scott Moran: Great. Because I obsessed over it for a whole day, which I can do with things I haven't watched since I was a. .

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[00:08:10] Scott Moran: child. I think I was probably 13 the last time I saw this movie. Oh, well man,

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[00:08:18] Frank Roll: Oh my God. And the last time, oh, like I said, I had hbo, O and Cinemaxx in my room at like three when I didn't even know what that was. So by the time I'm five watching tv, I had HBO and Cinemax. So that was on about that time I was five and 89. At some point there, it was on HBO or Cinemax, and I watched it a couple times.

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[00:08:47] Scott Moran: monsters. Well, I would like to point out right at the top, they never said vampire.

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[00:08:58] Frank Roll: grabbed the hotel room

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[00:09:01] Frank Roll: But I mean, his hand was still exposed. I was like, why would he grab the key with a towel? And then I was like, oh, the

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[00:09:06] Scott Moran: Oh, maybe I thought it was just because the sunlight was hitting just the counter. Well, I. I could go

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[00:09:15] Scott Moran: a, I thought it was coming from this direction and he just kind of used it to shield that side of his

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[00:09:22] Frank Roll: He's using it more like oven,

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[00:09:34] Frank Roll: movie for an eighties horror movie, couple continuity. But it's gonna happen.

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[00:09:42] Scott Moran: fine. Well, I watched this twice. I watched it once, and then I watched it with the commentary I found on YouTube. Mm. So I played it on my phone. At the same time. Wow. I didn't get a whole lot. I didn't get from reading from her though. Hmm. Other than her feelings about certain things or like the way something looked, and it was a lot of praising other people.

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[00:10:09] Frank Roll: This should be one of those cult classics that yes, I would lo way more people talk about. Yes, absolutely.

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[00:10:25] Scott Moran: Even that title Near Dark, this should have been a more widely recognized film. It should be on a

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[00:10:34] Scott Moran: lists now. Yeah. And I feel like strange Days is on there, like people are blown away by strange days.

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[00:10:43] Scott Moran: It's like 93, I wanna say 93,

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[00:10:45] Frank Roll: Somewhere there I believe. Yeah. Did that one do well in the box

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[00:11:03] Frank Roll: Yeah, it was pretty desolate. Things were pretty dark again. I watched that way too.

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[00:11:08] Scott Moran: probably 10. Yeah, me too. 11. Cause that one. Really uncomfortable rape scene. Yeah. Oh, and that's like

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[00:11:15] Scott Moran: right? Terrifying. Yes. Or he makes her feel, yeah, he makes her feel his feelings. Well, yeah, it's

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[00:11:24] Scott Moran: that. No, no. Not at all.

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[00:11:29] Frank Roll: It was Near Dark is the classic story of Boy meets Girl. Girl Turns Boy into a Vampire Boy, has to choose between his new vampire family and his human. Classic. I mean, this is, I don't want to compare it to Twilight .

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[00:11:44] Frank Roll: real vampire.

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[00:12:10] Frank Roll: Caleb blimps through the farmlands. Nearly burning to death in the rising sun before being scooped up by May's family in an RV containing half the cast of aliens. True story, like a trio of them. , they agree to give him a week to learn to hunt and gain their trust. But Caleb's unwillingness to kill, endangers the group when he lets a potential meal go.

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[00:12:45] Scott Moran: Near Dark came out in 1987, just two months after Lost Boys, and I would put.

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[00:13:01] Frank Roll: were as much as Lost Boys as a staple of our lives. This movie should have been right there

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[00:13:06] Scott Moran: Yes, it definitely should have been. It should have

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[00:13:20] Scott Moran: Catherine Bigelow, who also co-wrote the movie with Eric Red.

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[00:13:40] Scott Moran: Suggested that she, it's probably cuz of Avatar. suggested she uses ex his existing ensemble from aliens. The cast features Adrian Patar as Caleb, Jenny Wright as May Lance. Hendrickson as Jesse Bill Paxton as Severin Jeanette Goldstein as Diamondback Joshua John Miller as Homer with Pax and Goldstein and Hendrix.

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[00:14:17] Frank Roll: So that's why I picked, um, Robert Patrick over Michael Bean for your cameo gift that time.

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[00:14:27] Frank Roll: way weirder than where did I get Robert Patrick. It was way weirder than that. Yeah.

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[00:14:32] Frank Roll: Okay, so I got you. Eric Roberts instead of Michael Bean, just because Michael Bean didn't seem that into it, and he just, so Eric Roberts is like wine.

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[00:14:56] Frank Roll: Imagine like just lean back in the sofa bed with the readers down to the tip of the nose, like. and then like the 60 year old on FaceTime thing where you just see the, you know, from the nose past their forehead. Love dad. Yeah, that's Michael being on cameo. Sorry. I love you. You're in some good shit, but damn man.

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[00:15:18] Scott Moran: sorry. James Cameron is also in this movie as the guy who flips sever off while he is hitchhiking. He drives by in a car and flips 'em off. No. Yeah. . No, this is according to Bill Pax. . I watched the movie twice. I couldn't see James Cameron.

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[00:15:37] Frank Roll: Mm-hmm. before he gets in the truck with the two chicks. Did anybody else even drive by before the two chicks? I think

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[00:15:45] Frank Roll: I don't remember that. Anyway,

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[00:15:54] Scott Moran: Bill Paxton, just Billy was just like that motherfucker. .

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[00:16:01] Scott Moran: ass like a nine year old boy. Bill Paxton's finest role, although this is a close second, this movie is also the 10th movie scored by Tangerine Dream, and I remember Tangerine Dream all through my childhood.

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[00:16:37] Scott Moran: And they're also like the inspiration for Stranger Things in every fucking other movie that has that Goblin Tangerine dream sound to it. That's real, in which I love it. Mm-hmm. , keep doing it. Throwback. I like the synthesizer horror music. Mm-hmm. , thank you so much, John Carpenter for that. Oh, oh, one more thing.

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[00:17:17] Scott Moran: And I was like, I, I've never seen that. It's not time I'll get back.

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[00:17:27] Scott Moran: I liked the Alamo drafts house, like cut togethers they used to put at the beginning of movies of it better. Like any vampire movie, you

know,

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[00:17:36] Frank Roll: and if you listen to our shit, you've probably watched it once. Bitten one of Jim

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[00:17:52] Scott Moran: And for the quality

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[00:17:58] Scott Moran: was good. It was beautiful. It was a beautiful looking movie, the Smoky eighties lighting. Mm-hmm. is so good in this. It

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[00:18:14] Scott Moran: fuck.

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[00:18:18] Frank Roll: knows what else he could have done. He was in

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[00:18:37] Scott Moran: I fucking love that guy. I'm not as interested in this Edge of Tomorrow. Sequel. as I am. Uh, I would've been if you had been like, oh, and Bill Paxton's in it. , but doing that again, I love that shit. No.

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[00:18:57] Frank Roll: I really respect this

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[00:19:22] Scott Moran: Mm-hmm . He was also the one that made it scary and he

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[00:19:28] Scott Moran: rockabilly, fun thing. , I noticed on accident the guy looked familiar in the bar when he spills his drink in this movie.

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[00:19:39] Scott Moran: Yeah. Same fucking dude that he steals his fucking leather jacket from two years later and Terminator two and fucking Bill Paxton gets his jacket stolen from him in the first movie.

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[00:19:52] Frank Roll: point. Did he? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Arnold steals bills in Terminator one. When

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[00:20:04] Frank Roll: No. As soon as I saw his face, I was like, why does he look familiar?

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[00:20:07] Scott Moran: exactly what happened. I, I mdb him immediately and I was like, oh my God. He's the fucking guy.

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[00:20:17] Scott Moran: kind of connections I like. Yeah, because despite the fact that like those two were married later and stuff like that.

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[00:20:25] Frank Roll: Terminator was 84. Terminator two was 90, 92.

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[00:20:31] Frank Roll: Yeah. Somewhere in there. Early nineties. But this 87, right in the middle, you can't miss that face. If you've seen Terminator two more than once,

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[00:20:44] Scott Moran: Oh, okay. Okay. Have the same cinematographer as, uh, I'm sorry, what's his name? I, I, I'm sure that I wrote that. Yeah, it's the second time. You said

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[00:20:57] Scott Moran: Yeah. But I'm sure you would've seen his name in the credits a lot during your life.

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[00:21:21] Scott Moran: There's no exposition in this entire movie. No. Telling you how vampire works.

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[00:21:30] Scott Moran: That's about it though. That's about. We don't get very much else. I mean, Severin is a, it's gotta be a really old name.

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[00:21:41] Scott Moran: Yeah. Super old man. That was kind of the male. Kirsten Dun from Interview with the Vampire kind of had that same vibe to it,

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[00:21:53] Scott Moran: child. I really like that though. I like that they left all of that out. Oh yeah, I'm fine with it. There was no fat on this movie at all, which is something that's missing from every, supernatural.

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[00:22:23] Frank Roll: Not a, not a lot of

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[00:22:25] Scott Moran: Yeah, that Homer kid was in River's Edge. Did you ever see River's Edge? No Counter. No. Oh man. It's good. Dennis Hopper.

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[00:22:42] Frank Roll: If

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[00:22:43] Frank Roll: really watch it. It's one of Keanu's favorite movies.

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[00:22:52] Frank Roll: seen that watch. It's gonna be something else I saw when I was a kid

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[00:22:55] Scott Moran: It probably is because that's what happened to me was I watched it and I was like, oh, fuck, I've seen this before. Mm-hmm. that happened to me with, uh, phenomena as well. , John Travolta. Yeah. At the same time, I picked it up at the video store and I was like, what the fuck is this? Would you, I put it in and I was like, oh my God, I've, I've fucking seen this.

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[00:23:13] Frank Roll: saw you in

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[00:23:21] Frank Roll: Sedgwick was in phenomena, right? I think so, yeah. Somebody brought up singles to me to, they were like, do you ever, did you ever watch singles? I was like, I've watched singles.

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[00:23:33] Scott Moran: I'm not against Singles. The Plain Clothes cop in this too. Troy Evans, who

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[00:23:39] Scott Moran: Weirdly, I can remember that guy's name for some reason. Mm-hmm. Even though he is not in that much stuff, he's just featured prominently as that guy.

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[00:23:50] Frank Roll: I feel like cop dad. Teacher.

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[00:24:01] Scott Moran: Yeah. Uh oh. But Homer, Joshua, John Miller. Uh,

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[00:24:11] Scott Moran: right there. Grab him by the, he's right down there. Jason Patrick from Lost Boys is his half. No shit. Isn't that weird? Wow.

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[00:24:21] Frank Roll: that. No, does I was gonna say, did you, does he still do film? I

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[00:24:33] Frank Roll: lot of this cast, um, did a lot of TV after that.

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[00:24:40] Scott Moran: getting paid. Lance Hendrickson is, uh, Frank Black, I mean, prepared for this role by getting into costume and then driving from his house to the set all the way across the country, picking up fucking hitchhiker and pretending he was that character.

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[00:24:59] Scott Moran: Yeah. Picking people up, trying to spook 'em. He had the long fingernails and everything. The, the rat tail. Imagine being like

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[00:25:13] Scott Moran: Aliens

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[00:25:18] Frank Roll: And you're like, this can't be him. But I'm all whacked out, sitting here in the seat. Can you get me to the club ?

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[00:25:29] Frank Roll: with that rat

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[00:25:38] Frank Roll: Oh man. That's awesome though. Way to go, Bishop. Damn.

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[00:25:58] Scott Moran: It's funny

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[00:26:00] Scott Moran: uh, I thought she was Hispanic for much of my life. Me too.

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[00:26:08] Scott Moran: I just, I think she got like a really, really hardcore tan before she did that part.

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[00:26:15] Frank Roll: Oh, yeah, yeah. She's John Connor's stepmom, uh, Vasquez. And now this, those are like, I think top three for me. And then her pick on imdb. I wouldn't recognize her in the street. I don't. I don't think I would recognize her.

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[00:26:32] Frank Roll: Caleb, I feel like I've, some of those shows that he's on, I feel like I've like skimmed through

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[00:26:38] Scott Moran: I think that's when he got, okay. Okay. The most. Kind of famous. Mm-hmm. as far as being, being on a primetime n b NBC show because he's Peter Petrel's brother the senator. I was

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[00:26:54] Scott Moran: Uh, I think Heroes went to its completion. But wasn't there, the gap or or con was like that weird season of lost and we should cover

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[00:27:05] Scott Moran: I feel like there hasn't been, there'll be another one soon. Well,

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[00:27:14] Scott Moran: yeah, it was the one that affected us the most.

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[00:27:20] Frank Roll: Caan, was that part of what happened to California?

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[00:27:29] Frank Roll: threw me off from a lot of shows cuz by the time I did hear it was back.

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[00:27:34] Scott Moran: I'm doing this now. It's cuz you gotta pay them fucking writers. They're the most important people on your fucking movie.

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[00:27:43] Scott Moran: had a ball. Oh, I, I would've loved to nerd out with that guy.

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[00:27:51] Frank Roll: yeah, no, I'm a showrunner for The Expanse. And as soon as he had said that, I was like, Scott should be here. . Um, no, no. I, I can't say enough good things about this movie. Sorry if I sound like I'm on repeat, but man, it, it hit that nostalgia spot.

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[00:28:24] Scott Moran: was a daylight problem when, uh, at the hotel, when the dad and the daughter show up.

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[00:28:41] Frank Roll: they even said, what are you doing up at 5:00

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[00:28:48] Frank Roll: this.

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[00:29:06] Frank Roll: I was like, fuck. Was that in the script or was that improv? The

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[00:29:23] Scott Moran: In the commentary. He just did it. Yeah. He took the guy's sunglasses off in the middle of it and put 'em on his

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[00:29:33] Scott Moran: harder to take notes of, which is why I kind of deep dove into it the next day was because when I watched it I was like, I just wanna watch this movie.

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[00:29:42] Frank Roll: pick it apart. Yeah, I mean, uh, these, these vampires couldn't shoot for. These were like the worst shooting vampires I've ever seen in a movie in

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[00:29:51] Frank Roll: didn't have the, the ,

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[00:30:00] Scott Moran: You're not gonna look so good with your face ripped off . That's it. Looks like the way he said it.

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[00:30:12] Scott Moran: think that was just them going out and getting food so they didn't need to. Yeah, but he, she fed and then he fed off her, which is how he learns to crash a truck later. also thought that was a nice touch that they threw that in there. Yeah, I was like, why would he be explaining this right now?

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[00:30:35] Frank Roll: I thought it was just filler for the, uh, attention building of Is he gonna do it? Can he get the courage to kill?

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[00:30:43] Frank Roll: Yeah. But it is a lot. You know what, how many gears do those trucks have?

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[00:31:00] Scott Moran: trailers. I love that bar sequence though. That's burned into my brain from childhood.

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[00:31:08] Frank Roll: That was the stuff that was bringing scenes back for me. I found

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[00:31:26] Scott Moran: With lit cigars. Strap him his jacket. Yeah. In the, that opening scene where he's running back to the farm for no drive home, like, what are you doing, ? Yeah. I thought he was following her at first and then maybe he was like, oh fuck, I'm dying. . Left turn

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[00:31:46] Scott Moran: I also was like, this guy just has the stuff to give a blood transfusion. and Kelly was like, he's a veterinarian. Yeah. My

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[00:31:57] Scott Moran: transfusion. That was the big complaint with the reviews when this movie came out, was that that was a cheap out and convenient out.

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[00:32:18] Frank Roll: Oh, cuz he never act well.

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[00:32:25] Scott Moran: Was this

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[00:32:35] Scott Moran: And the real Bill Paxton boss fight was fucking amazing. .

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[00:32:46] Frank Roll: You know what I mean? on the waterbed. Yeah. The, there was a watered in my dad's room, so when I'd watch HB on his room, I was on a waterbed. It's the

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[00:32:57] Frank Roll: too. Back when I saw fright night, the original fright night for the first time, I watched it on the waterbed.

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[00:33:05] Scott Moran: the end of a waterbed. I remember the first time I was actually allowed to sleep in a water. that somebody had. Mm-hmm. . I was like, this is awful.

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[00:33:18] Frank Roll: I had gotten like my first back pain from sleeping because of a waterbed at like elementary school age .

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[00:33:41] Scott Moran: The

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[00:33:44] Scott Moran: Although if it hadn't happened to molder, they would still be stuck in that Groundhog Daily

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[00:33:58] Scott Moran: water bed itself. Oh, they were all patched for sure. Uh,

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[00:34:08] Frank Roll: Now. Those things were a pain in the ass. God that

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[00:34:25] Scott Moran: He's like a baby face. It's fucking Macbeth, man. Do you ever, do you ever watch Scotland? Pa No. Oh my god, it's so good. But that guy's been in a ton of shit. Oh, so much stuff. He's a, he's been, he's a face changer too. Looks completely different with facial hair. Looks skinnier. Yeah, he can look like a, a, he get little bigger, a little chubbier sometimes.

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[00:35:01] Scott Moran: William. No, but he is William. One of those guys where I'm like, fucking Macbeth. Yeah. That's how I always

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[00:35:08] Scott Moran: of status.

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[00:35:25] Frank Roll: I mean, I, I know about it. I just, I've never seen

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[00:35:28] Scott Moran: It's great. It's, it's a really good one. It's one of those like Wonderboys Sleeper amazing. And is a Shakespeare adaptation, so it's, it's just good. Oh, but my point was when they had that shootout, I noticed he has the bullet holes in his leg way before he gets. and then they do it again with the blood spurting out.

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[00:35:48] Frank Roll: hotel room. So when Jesse's dad got, I mean, when Jesse shot Caleb's dad in the hotel room. Mm-hmm. was that one already in Lance Hendrickson's chest as well? Ah, shoot.

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[00:36:00] Frank Roll: Yeah. I meant to rewind it and I didn't.

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[00:36:14] Scott Moran: like, yeah, there's some continuity error with those hotel scenes. With the hotel scenes,

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[00:36:21] Frank Roll: I found, well one of them, they steal the used car from the lot right after they kidnap, uh, Caleb, cuz they need to switch up the ride. Did you notice how were they wearing blankets when they were driving daytime in that? Because that was already late night and it showed them driving through the day in that vehicle.

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[00:36:58] Scott Moran: Oh, I don't know. There

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[00:37:08] Frank Roll: Yeah. And even at the end panic mode. And the other ones spray pants, spray pants, spray ba. They're like, hurry in. They did it in like two different other, the van and the last car. All those

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[00:37:19] Frank Roll: to call it the Iron Eagle effect. Magic bullets. Yeah.

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[00:37:23] Scott Moran: explode. Also, that truck didn't jackknife, Jack Knifing wouldn't have. Blow up, explode. Maybe what Bill Paxton did, ripping its guts out might have. He looked so fucked up too.

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[00:37:35] Scott Moran: smiling and being so happy. The man could do crazy fucking American treasurer. And I

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[00:37:44] Frank Roll: Like I ne I, believe me, true lies, , everything. .

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[00:38:07] Frank Roll: you know, just so we say Weird science.

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[00:38:10] Scott Moran: weird science. Had to we That's, that's my

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[00:38:19] Scott Moran: I mean, Che is vintage Paxton.

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[00:38:27] Scott Moran: don't know if I can buy it.

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[00:38:32] Frank Roll: We'll dig deep man. So much uglier. It's crazy .

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[00:38:44] Frank Roll: feel like watching camera shots of the corner top corners of rooms and conversations from other rooms and random fucking noises and supposed

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[00:38:59] Scott Moran: You know? No. Like I said, that would've been a really mini episode of me being like, hated it, .

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[00:39:11] Scott Moran: your. endorsement. I couldn't even bring myself to try it today. I was gonna try to watch it today or just put it on while I was working or

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[00:39:21] Frank Roll: Yeah, I mean, you know, you wanna watch artsy, I don't know, tree of Life. Got me a couple years ago. Tree of Life was just a little much. I I watched Melancholia,

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[00:39:42] Frank Roll: I tried to start

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[00:39:49] Frank Roll: hat. It's so uncom. Man,

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[00:40:02] Frank Roll: Somebody comes in and breaks my Magic Rock. Um,

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[00:40:21] Frank Roll: Somewhere around there, uh, is something in the dirt on your

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[00:40:26] Scott Moran: And then, uh, I keep trying to watch it. The one I told you about that had, or I showed you a trailer for it and it was like they're growing the weird flowers and had the guy played Q in, uh, oh, fuck yeah.

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[00:40:40] Scott Moran: See, that's, I should have written all these.

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[00:40:49] Frank Roll: something, shit. But I do really wanna watch something in the dirt and I feel like that one's gonna go away first. I feel like that's going away. It's

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[00:40:57] Frank Roll: sure. The flowers one. If

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[00:41:04] Scott Moran: Uhhuh. as a final sendoff for, uh, AMC Plus. AMC

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[00:41:19] Frank Roll: Little Joe.

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[00:41:26] Frank Roll: no, I'm, I'm more excited about that than something in the dirt. But I really do wanna watch

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[00:41:36] Scott Moran: I feel like little Joe will be around and we

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[00:41:41] Scott Moran: that's gonna happen. It was

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[00:41:49] Scott Moran: you know, I'm gonna take it easy. You were so optimistic about it. That was why I agreed to do it in the first place.

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[00:41:59] Frank Roll: pessimist. Well, and I'm always looking for the hidden. Like, I'm always just looking for that buried treasure. You know what I mean? I

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[00:42:09] Frank Roll: But something in the universe brought us to near dark, which was, I gotta say again, just I felt good after this movie. I was, I was like, re, I was re-energized like this movie. Helped me , this

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[00:42:25] Frank Roll: Near Dark. Helped

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[00:42:30] Scott Moran: Even if they're horror movies, like Lost Boys. Makes me feel that way. Uh, the Frighteners makes me feel that way later, much later. Oh, okay. But like, it has that same sort of vibe where I'm like, I feel really good here. watching this. Uh,

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[00:42:48] Scott Moran: Uh, big trouble in little China makes me feel that way.

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[00:43:01] Frank Roll: definitely watched it multiple times as a very young child, like, dude, this had to have been five to seven years old.

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[00:43:22] Scott Moran: it's been close. I think I was thir 1213. I grew up with a just indie video store.

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[00:43:55] Scott Moran: When you were a kid, it was a cartoon. Usually, like they had episodes of hinged turtles or some shit the video store wouldn't bother having.

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[00:44:09] Scott Moran: Well, the upside to that was the indie video store where I grew up.

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[00:44:19] Frank Roll: So I would rent movies with my grandparents from Bergstrom Air Force. The Air Force Bases, uh, video thing. I think it was inside the px, um, post exchange. It's like

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[00:44:32] Frank Roll: No, they had, that's where I rented, uh, I made them rent me, uh, gremlins too from there. That was my first time seeing gremlins too. That's not too bad. I rented it from the Air Force base, but also in the neighborhood in East Austin. We had a home video.

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[00:44:47] Scott Moran: They had like, uh, three shelves. Yeah, every now and then, so it was probably something somebody gave. Yeah, but it was like a buck to rent a movie, 99 cents or something like that, that works. And uh, they had just random shit. I think that's how I saw legend the

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[00:45:05] Frank Roll: That didn't go away till right before the video stores did the gas station rentals, the grocery store, gas station,

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[00:45:19] Scott Moran: You know what? I

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[00:45:29] Scott Moran: the beach, probably still grocery stores with videos for rent, like DVDs are

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[00:45:37] Frank Roll: Had a red box that was not a red box.

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[00:45:41] Frank Roll: luxury looking red box, but it was nowhere. Was there a red

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[00:45:48] Frank Roll: That's what they did. That's where I saw central intelligence. Oh. And uh, this little movie called Pop Star. Oh god. That was

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[00:45:56] Scott Moran: You know, earlier Kelly was, You guys should do Pop star one day , just so you can just, Hey, brag on it to Frank and I was like, I don't wanna listen to a fucking quote. The movie we just watched for fucking three

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[00:46:17] Frank Roll: No, Titanic, . Okay. Twi.

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[00:46:31] Frank Roll: Did you know that Seal was in Pop Star? Oh God. . Thanks everyone for joining us. For the last video Store Clerks podcast, be sure to leave a rating and subscribe. You can find us on Twitter at Last Clerks Instagram at the last video store clerks, and you can find Scott at dispatches from the pit.com.

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About the Podcast

The Last Video Store Clerks
With Frank and Scott
The Last Video Store Clerks try to figure out what a good movie even is in the age of streaming. Are there still Cult Classics with no shelf to put them on? Something is missing. Former video store clerks Frank Roll and Scott Moran aim to find it. Or at least, comedy and a silver lining. What is a good movie anyway?

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Scott Moran

Former video store clerk, current sci-fi horror writer. Our copywriter, podcast editor, audio engineer, and resident bad good movie expert.