SLC Punk! Rewatch

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so today we watched slc punk i haven't seen it since i was in high school when was the last time you watched this movie probably right after high school it is a very different movie than the one i left it as way back then we'll talk about that in a little bit what all of you watched this week you said you watched bad vegan bad vegan i've been a fan of the true crime series that have been on netflix i saw bad vegan for some reason i didn't turn it off is it a true i i don't know based on a true story yeah this woman who owned a restaurant in new york uh long story short she got into some debt then she was trying to pay the debt the business was doing better she met a mystery man so this is like a crime against her that's the whole thing was it a crime against her was she in on it the whole time oh it comes down to was she taking advantage of what i want to know is at the end did you watch the whole thing i watched the whole thing it was four parts did they solve the thing is there any sort of justice or anything like that at the end i'm not going to say justice was served but i mean does it feel like you completed the story you know what i mean like i i know all i need to know about that because i'm getting [ __ ] sick of watching true crime documentaries that have no resolution like i give you what you mean by that you can tell a good story about an unsolved case and he's still out there kind of thing because untold mysteries did it for a decade or more but i feel like netflix is really grasping at straws with some of these unsolved murders that are really unsatisfying documentaries to watch is the same hbo did that scientology or no it wasn't scientology i'm sorry the uh what was the cult with the girl from nexium cult yeah so i watched that whole thing those people are very i that's why i confuse it with scientology is because they're all like in the film industry yeah and it takes some money to get in the club well they really like being on camera they really liked it so it was kind of hard to feel so bad for them in a little way you're like you got out before you accidentally did anything illegal it was a status thing and it was a choice yeah once you started i know that like something legit the [ __ ] out yeah legit a lot of them did and had trouble and there's there's a lot of layers to that i yeah stop giving people these money stop believing in these um yeah and i i feel for him in in all the regards that you should for another human being that got swindled but like at the same time while they're making the documentary like i just felt a little bit like this is my chance to get my face on the camera again to be out there and have this hollywood career i'm getting they like the attention for sure but it didn't change any of my feelings about keith reneer but then at the same time at the end of it they were talking about making a second season of it and i was like why the [ __ ] would you do that like like i'll follow it in the news think i like i don't want to follow these people anymore yeah it's still in the news and documentaries are still talking about here and there bad vegan was something i hadn't heard about sarma was her name that is one of the issues though is she she wasn't your common person i feel like it's a wealth issue you know there's a status thing here where justice wasn't served as fully as it should have been yeah well it never is it was fine like watching the jinx did you watch the jinx i didn't finish the jeans okay so like at the end of the jinx you're like oh i i know without a doubt without a doubt i felt you know but there was more to cover i don't necessarily want to watch everybody go to court and be sentenced and all that stuff i'm okay with that like police procedural like we got him and you're like don't even think about the fact that there's two years worth of court [ __ ] that's gonna go on and we're never gonna show me drop this [ __ ] leather jacket and go to court exactly like i'm fine with that i don't want to see all the court proceedings unless that's the main focus of the documentary bad vegan i was left empty in a sense that i'm not sure what actually happened because there's two ways it could have gone down either way she was taken advantage of or she was a part of it but either way she had several chances to stop is my point but i think we're reaching a point where we're running out of crimes that are interesting to make documentaries about i mean i'll watch the john wayne gacy tapes thing i watched the bundy tapes and i was kind of mad that there was no real murder in it like i felt like that bundy tapes thing was a lot of them being like isn't he cool well and like we were talking about night stalker was good yeah night starter was really good making a murderer making murder didn't need a second season it didn't and that second season was just i'm not even going to call it bonus footage just footage unused and with a little bit of update at the same time and that's a good segue to archive 81 got cancelled i didn't know it was not over like didn't you tell your story i felt good with that i don't know why everything needs to wrap up in a tight bow because i feel like a lot of series like a series ending and it being over even if it's just one season that's a good thing man you got the whole story like my two new favorite words are limited series yeah seriously limited series how many years of our life did we have to go with all these really great tv shows that never had any sort of resolution to them or if it was it was this tacked on like and they had kids and it's all good or there's a writer's strike or the writers just got bored when they found out it was gonna get canceled or the writer said [ __ ] it we're getting cancelled [ __ ] it let's go all in yeah and that doesn't happen as often anymore and then there's a lot of series that they go so far past their expiration date showtime is the guiltiest party as far as like they will take a series way too far dexter went a little i knew you were gonna start with dexter yeah weeds went too long shameless went too long did go too long they beat that to death and i love californication went too long like he was never they were never gonna get back together in the like there was still gonna be hank and karen at the end of it you know so find a different story plot and end with it did you feel as if it was wrapped up i didn't necessarily feel like it was fully wrapped up but i didn't think that there was more story to tell and at that point you're just following the characters there was lots of good stuff after that rob lowe being a weirdo it's like one long side story but you watch at the end of a show when a rug the writers are trying to struggle their way out of this hole they don't have an ongoing story anymore to tell the only thing that you're waiting for is to get these two characters together and i said i've said it like millions of times when you put the characters together the show's over you know that's with every show when when he finds the mother and how i met your mother the show's over but so archive 81 you believe that the end of that first season was a okay there's a second season coming moment no i didn't feel like that at all i felt like this is a end of a good horror movie moment you know i was like we solved all the problems but the characters [ __ ] yes you know and that's me not giving anything away you should watch archive 81. it was fantastic it was a really really great horror series original too i've never seen anything like that necessarily with the amount of like it's got time travel and it's a [ __ ] a lovecraft kind of uh adam neville cosmic horror thing it was really effective and it had like a dark ending to that season sure we could follow them further find out what happens but they're all alive and what more can you ask for and that's the thing there's plenty of handheld horror movies out uh supernatural movies out there yeah everybody does but this one the way that they did this one because it's taking place in two different times yeah and to be clear some of it feels like found footage but they zoom out it's not a found footage thing if you're turned off by that would you not say it's a found footage well i i would say it's a found footage in a the weirdest meta layered like in a good way if you broke it down it's a found footage yeah it's a show for anyone who hasn't looked into this it's a show about a guy who is piecing together footage from a fire it gets more and more complicated as the show goes on it was based on a podcast was it really it was it was based on a podcast yeah i which i kind of wonder what that podcast is like it's it's definitely something different i'm for it they made a cool tv series i liked it i wasn't 100 satisfied with the ending but i get it yeah i don't need a happy ending but that ending was just a little extra uh i like to i'm i'm that jerk that likes that ending everybody [ __ ] hates okay like when they're real mad at the end like the inception everyone wanted to argue like about the inception ending and i was like who gives a [ __ ] man didn't you watch the movie it was great you're going to let that spinning top [ __ ] ruin your [ __ ] life yeah you're kidding me i didn't dwell on it for too long i got so sick of talking i didn't dwell on that one for too long at all i didn't even feel the need to re-watch it right away you know sometimes with those christopher nolan you want to re-watch it yeah you want to kind of be like what happened and then and then i've watched tennant like seven times now yeah you told me about that it's a really good time travel movie but these series will go on for so long and then they're remaking so many things it's hard to find things that are new when you first told me archive 81 was cancelled that was the first thing that came to mind i felt better i felt better yeah knowing that nothing else was going to happen even though i wasn't 100 satisfied with the ending the fact that they were going to make a season two and then it didn't happen it was closure in that sort of uh slow burn horror kind of way like where like i almost feel a little more detached from the characters than i did with some other horror thing that focused just in on one person and yeah i think it was a good ending i like that oh [ __ ] me kind of ending you didn't want it to be hunky dory everybody's fine reunited we're good yeah and there's this new relationship i wouldn't have liked it as much if it hit if it has a happy ending i'm i'm less interested i always felt like good at the end of a texas chainsaw massacre movie because i was like that girl's crazy now like that final girl that gets away yeah even if she gets away she's not getting what you know she's damaged yeah i think rob zombie did that really well too i think that's the thing rob zombie is good at because house of a thousand corpses is a homage movie at best devil's rejects it was kind of disturbing yeah devil's rejects he he found what he had and was you know yeah he was like a little keeper and it was like almost an anti-quentin tarantino thing where it's like you're not going to be thrilled by the violence you're going to be a little repulsed by what these people are doing but i'm going to make you follow them what i could really appreciate was the level of raunchiness in devil's rejects just that you felt grimy you felt dirty when you were watching some of that it was sick yeah it took some time a little bit [ __ ] sick yeah yeah yeah i blew someone's mind telling him i was like you know chris hardwick is in thousands of thousand corpses right that chris hardwick the last person it blew their mind people don't understand that that's chris yeah apparently chris hardwick calls himself peter hardwick during that time he's like that's my evil twin peter hardware dwight's in it too if you're a fan of the office yeah there's dwight yeah and i told him to re-watch it because house of thousand corpses is a different movie later it's it's one of those movies like i didn't think any of the final destination movies were good when they came out because i was all screamed out by then everything was that scream formula meta horror kind of thing you know what you did last summer yeah still know what you did last summer yeah but those are really good to go back and watch they're of their time urban legend yeah i haven't re-watched that oh with pacey in it from dawson's creek joshua jackson and then yeah and then the [ __ ] cake eater

joshua jackson [ __ ] put me in coach flying v i heard they were gonna make a mighty ducks movie again and emilio esteban was gonna be in a disney plus man it's there oh it's there it happened did

i started it and it's one of those things where i just needed to see it i didn't really plan on watching the whole thing i just needed to see that it happened and uh i didn't turn it back on i don't know if i would have liked it i just yeah i just had to see that it was a thing so yeah we started the first episode i don't know about that man i watched the first episode of fuller house and i was like that's enough of that yeah we did the same thing there too i don't need everything back you know i'm happy i watched halloween kills this week i'm more than happy if you're gonna make a sequel to an old movie with the original actor and i like this age of the middle aged actress i like seeing older ladies in movies especially jamie lee curtis deserves everything she [ __ ] has she was the original scream queen and she's still still doing it the original final girl i can't think of one that i remember before that no no i remember before that like a lot of friday the 13th well yeah the comedies too you know trading places my name is curtis and true lies how many times am i going to bring up true lies true lies true lies is the epitome of james cameron movies and i i'm excited to see this uh magnum opus of michael battiness you know did michael bay make the ninja turtles movies uh the most recent one yeah reboot yeah i don't know who made the original ones i watched the original ninja turtles a few years ago and it [ __ ] holds up man it's a good movie yeah more recently i watched two secret of the use not as good go ninja go knees yeah but the special effects you can't beat the [ __ ] animatronics of that i don't want to see cgi ninja turtles we got ninja turtles that really were ninja turtles turtles life size yeah and they had ninjas inside them thank god for jim henson yeah no those movies are great the third one you know there's not much to say different april every time april from the second movie was the mom in the 100 oh yeah yeah paige trucker oh damn i think dang i am good at those b actors that's a good one i had to look her up just to make sure for a long time i got her confused with uh what's the desperate housewives one that was in lois and clark she was also in the movie with andrew nice clay

love story terry hatcher terry hatcher yeah i would get paige tricho confused with terry hatcher yeah oh um terry hatcher was also entails from the [ __ ] oh they all were wasn't the uh the lead singer the who was entails from the crypt really yeah it was like an episode where they unearthed something in egypt i want to say it was a mummy thing might have been later in the series like i said there's a lot of tales from the crypt jamie lee curtis was not in tales from the crypt no she wasn't she didn't need to be at that point the first halloween movie is so good and halloween kills was over the top in the best way possible that's what i've heard i have not yet seen halloween kills i saw the last one yeah i i watched the other one i realized halfway through watching halloween kills that i would have somehow forgot to watch the one before it it's at that point oh oh yeah yeah there were some clips and i was like what the [ __ ] was that and then like i don't remember that yeah and i went back and watched it man [ __ ] it was awesome jamie lee curtis was so good in that halloween sequel reboot i'm okay with that though you can do that but just don't beat things to death you know what was it halloween h2o and don't remake everything they're remaking the crow with bill skarsgard which excellent choice if you're gonna pick somebody to play the crow pennywise do it that that sounds good but also don't remake the crow stop yeah we don't really need that and the crow was so [ __ ] 90s it's gonna be really hard to pull that off there's not a lot of goths around anymore man you know it used to be when we were in high school every halloween someone was dressed like the [ __ ] well i mean that's the thing once you told me that one of the first things i thought of was they're not going to change the genre of music in in the film are they i think they just they know superhero movies are very popular right now so it's time to this was a superhero technically they beat that [ __ ] to death in the 90s like the first crow is good the second crow is it's fine the third crow i don't i don't think i even watched it i think the third one i've seen the cover at a video store back in the day it was edward furlong and tara reed i swear they're in the third crow movie it's the weirdest combination of people that's so weird i kind of want to watch pet cemetery too again it's been a long time for that one for long before things got weird in life i feel like pet cemetery 2 might be even better now as like a stand-alone thing that's another one of those things that we were talking about continuing to make things that the source material was run out what do you do when you have to pull it out of your ass yeah like why is big little lies go more than one season i don't really understand that and like it's okay with the leftovers side note frank was in the leftovers i was in the leftovers i was an extra i was a cop in jardin i was a jardin police officer yeah right there in the middle of frame too he's really in it yeah i'm in there the first the first frame i saw was like part of my face and i was like oh there's there's my jawline that's my jaw and then i keep popping up it was amazing yeah but for leftovers the source material was completely different they r so they made a new story out of it i like following a small town sheriff i've told you this that's always good yeah especially with some crazy storyline like that you know what happened situation yeah and it got really damon lindelof as it went on and i really liked it but then it was as much as i loved that show that last season of the leftovers yeah see i love the end of the leftovers because it's like [ __ ] you ending but it started dragging here and there there were points when i was like ah i felt like i was stuck in quicksand it was like yeah they may have been too many episodes to finish it yeah don't get me wrong i loved it every bit of it and it blew me away i need to actually go through and re-watch that again it's been a long time since i've rewatched that through and it that one won't take too much time three seasons it's a nice length man do you don't need we don't need 10 seasons of everything and big little lies i was late to the show on that one it took me forever to watch those and i wasn't aware that season two was kind of after the fact oh yeah after the book yeah let's see what we can do here stories have to end you know tell a good story get the [ __ ] out i'm for the limited series even if you're remaking siri yeah mike what mike flanagan's doing with those hill house things yeah he's making books that have been made into movies before a lot of time has passed with those though and he's doing a really good job a little heavy on the [ __ ] monologues mike but what was the other one that i watched the vampire series the vampire series yeah midnight mass oh yeah what he did with like midnight masks i've seen that yeah it was great i mean i haven't seen that i've seen that on there i was curious oh my god too many monologues mike flanagan i really like you remember when the caretaker in hill house tells him the story his story and they're in the basement yeah and they never do a flashback or anything it's just really intense that [ __ ] actor is great he was in halloween kills oh yeah the the actor that plays the caretaker i can't remember his name off the top of my head but man he was [ __ ] that story about his wife and her getting pregnant and like the daughter in the house and like oh i got goosebumps just now talking about it he really really got me with that part and uh i feel like he overdid it like too many [ __ ] they're going back and watching hill house again was same thing like i was like oh there's a lot of monologues in this too so what can what was the name of that second one it was the hunter man manor yeah that's right so the haunting of hill house was that one really scared the [ __ ] out of me sometimes it was spooky and blind manor wasn't quite as good and also had too many [ __ ] monologues and he did the same thing in black mask kill your darlings man cut some of these [ __ ] monologues his wife gave a kick-ass one because she's the one who wears the gloves and uh haunting a hill house okay i i love that actress she's great she was really good in hush did you watch hush i didn't watch hush but i know you're talking about it she's she's got a look that's it's versatile she can deliver a lot of dialogue without breaking scene and i'm always impressed by that that was what i felt was so impressive about clerk was the the just the amount of dialogue in a row without a single cut i'm sure those guys were reading it off the news you know the porno magazine that he's reading but like mike mike flanagan does it and it's really good when there's one or two of them but in midnight mass i felt like he did a monologue for every single character and it went way too [ __ ] long but still limited series you only have to deal with it for one season worth [ __ ] watching midnight mass was really really good otherwise it was a nice like new sort of like a stephen king feel too and i'm not gonna lie i was interested in that but i feel like other things were actually out at the time and i gave them priority i think when i was telling you that i was watching that you were a little put off by blind manner already every time i characterized my manner was a huge switch from hill house and i'm glad he went on and did midnight mass instead of doing another haunting thing because that the first one is shirley jackson's haunting a hill house and the second one is turn of the screw those two were like classic horror books and back then all the horror was of that like woman comes to a like she doesn't have any children a sort of like sarah plain and tall person you know oh man that's a [ __ ] deep cut sarah plain and tall old old glenn close

[ __ ] no one's seen sarah playing at all except for me man i was more of a pippy long stockings guy you guys want to talk about the bridges of madison county get out of here

oh my god look do you want to start talking about richard gere and diane lane movies i mean

watched this week and it is a: 1999

rs in in in salt lake city in: 1985

almost certainly bio dome [ __ ] it's the first thing that popped in my head we said that was bio thinking globally free mahi mahi i can't do a poly short impression but man that movie is stuck in my consciousness for life oh yeah and which baldwin was that was that uh stephen even the one that got all christian oh he got all christian-y yeah he did he was like friends with head from corn and they were like being weird jesus freaks together oh they were doing the jesus thing together yeah yeah yeah i was waiting for them to form the next dc talk but uh yeah the music i wasn't i i wasn't very knowledgeable in the music in this one i liked it the everything fit the movie yeah what i wrote down was this movie had the stooges fear camper van beethoven ramones the suicide machines the specials nlr for some reason there's a van halen song at some point i can't remember the context of it i may have been hey i think it might have been one of the redneck scenes where they they mercilessly beat up rednecks in this movie they don't like nazis they don't like rednecks and being in salt lake city there's a lot of rednecks yeah and i felt like this movie was trying to be in the same vein as like an empire records version of kids and romper stomper don't let the man bring you down but you couldn't have made that they had to bring up the nazi punk thing and them hating nazi punks on the cusp of you know american history x i think came out around the same time american history x was i think it would be shortly after this movie if not the same time but the other things i wrote down were the vandals minor threat velvet underground dead kennedy's roxy music blondie spandu ballet those might have happened in scenes where they were referencing like new wave kids and mods yeah because you're yeah because there were mods there was the mod group also crazy thing did you notice that uh the the guy from the greg erakai or iraqi or i think it's erika greg erakai movies doom generation okay uh what was the was the one in la where he's like i'm dark the absence of light i think his biggest role was he was frank the bunny rabbit in donnie darko james duvall yes smallest [ __ ] part in this movie he was one of the like mod kids which their defining quality was they rode around on vespas vespas and they had the you know the tight suits that's something i'm not familiar with that's not the thing and the punks weren't necessarily cool with the mods but stevo the main character matthew lillard was friend with james duvall's character the mod it comes into play big time at the end of the movie their friendship at some height of the movie they show them when they're kids and they're playing dungeons and dragons and listening to rush and i was like that's a nice like 80s thing i didn't notice before except for heroin bob is dressed like [ __ ] he was going out for the cast of newsies that shirt yeah and the shirt [ __ ] hat i should have wrote down the band that was on the shirt it was a it was definitely like an it was it was something like it was another like eighties yeah it was like journal it wasn't a journey it wasn't boston it wasn't boston it was but it's somewhere along those lines and this scene takes place at the end of the movie was it a yes shirt i don't believe it was oh i don't believe so yeah i'm just going to keep i remember it was rock rock bands yeah i remember it was green and white with some yellow it's weird i can remember the colors i can't remember yeah but they were listening to rush and he's like brush is cool man they're very technical and it's scratched because there's like one point in the morning in the movie where it gives you backstory on before they became punks it was like one of those last moments of purity almost yeah it's when they were like nerds and they find this identity that they made for themselves and by the end of the movie when stevo falls in love at first sight he realizes that she points out that it's fashion how much time he's spending doing his hair yeah she's like if you're so much against the establishment why are you wearing a uniform weird when i was in high school i wrote a lot of notes to myself to like remember you feel this way kind of [ __ ] and i have all that stuff too like notebooks full of it and uh i don't feel that way anymore i am not going to color my hair [ __ ] red to get attention like there is it's an asset blending into a crowd your writing was so different than mine i found that like one of my poem sheets and one of them was like italic i wrote really pretentious [ __ ] when i was in high school too i remember writing like i have a piece of paper from high school that says like an ithmus feeling in the waves i was like god you're so [ __ ] gross you [ __ ] tried oh gosh okay well and you know the other some of the other characters in this movie they're they're punks they're hardcore and one of the things they said that he said at the beginning when he's kind of introducing who he is yeah the movie is fourth wall breaking meta you know he talks directly to you it's almost like a documentary not charlotte one of the lines he said was our tribe was small and i loved that i was just like our tribe was small like i could really appreciate that like he knew who his people were at the time yeah it the writers others like him the storytelling the character development so quickly is really on point with this movie it's a shorter length movie it doesn't have like a things are getting bad or something happens to spur the whole plot on or anything like that it's really like a rundown of what punk rock was like in salt lake city you got the feeling that the person was there no matter what generation i think you're going to find something relatable yeah one of the other interesting characters that i loved and i was getting hyped about it because i remembered that he was in it stevo the main character plays down his whole image he's not trying to be a part of something but he is being who he is yeah well there's a member of their group mike jason jason siegel i forgot jason siegel was in this i forgot annabeth gish was in this i forgot jason seagull jason siegel's in it and he's mike he's the friend that he looks like a nerd out of the 80s but he's hardcore and their drug dealer till schweiger hugo stieglitz god he was funny man he played that part really well they go buy drugs from him and he's showing them all the stuff in his house i feel like this is a version of drug dealer visits you know like where you going to talk to him check out the tv you had to listen to him and look at his new thing yeah and you're like i just want a bag of weed dude yeah can i get out of here i saw this cool youtube video wait wait have you ever watched south park what and he's got an interesting story his family died in a plane crash but he survived so that's how he got his money but then he tells the story about the mom dying in the plane crash oh yeah he did tell the story yeah she looked over and smiled and said everything's going to be okay yeah but he was the right mix of funny and scary he really nailed that [ __ ] part yeah there's the scene where he thinks all of a sudden he's like wait the weed's missing and he accuses bob and poor bob's just sitting on the couch passed out yeah this is the character who he only drinks and smoked cigarettes which i feel like i knew punk rock dudes that were like that they were like anti-drugs but man that guy was drunk as [ __ ] yeah exactly and so harry and bob he was afraid of needles and and we don't have to go into the whole plot you've probably either watched it or if you haven't it's worth watching it's really good it is it's a good movie it's fun man i just didn't there were a lot of like things i didn't remember about this movie that hit me a different way of being older most of what i remembered from this movie was for the first half hour of it i didn't remember the like whole kind of downfall of his identity and it started happening when bob starts dating trish annabeth gish oh tristana beth gish

and she's kind of like a goth that runs a bong store and she's a little older than they are so they look to her as this wise figure she's always constantly looking off camera and saying something goth through the whole movie yeah goth insightful earth yeah but this movie friendly was what it was you know it wasn't ashamed of what it was and so it came off not as like kind of gross 90s glorifying childishness that was happening you know them getting in fights and beating up rednecks it was raw enough and you know they touched on things devin sawwa's character sean oh my god devin sawa i had originally thought that this was just a cameo but he's like a real deep part of the plot he's the thing that starts to collapse yeah his character comes up in these key points in the story he does it so good so he yeah we don't have to go through the whole thing but he's he's selling yeah he's like the the cautionary tale that bob tells him where he was like in high school he was running across a football field with a sheet of acid in his pocket the sprinklers are on yeah and then he just likes it soaks into his life so bad and that was like always that would have been the fear back then thing i also weirdly at that point i wrote down what the [ __ ] is bob wearing because he's wearing like an anarchy track jacket base color white and what it has like red and blue stripes yeah and i don't feel like he would have been wearing that no and it's got the anarchy a on the left chest plate yeah more of a more of an army jacket kind of guy with the mohawk and everything yeah but it's a real it's just a really clean anarchy windbreaker i was really shocked for what this movie was that everyone was so good in it even the actors you never really see again you see heroin bob pop up in other things law order episodes he's in a ton of tv yeah ton of tv he was really good in this part matthew lillard [ __ ] killed it he nails it oh my god bob overdoses on something even though he doesn't do drugs matthew lillard cries on that scene and i [ __ ] felt it matthew lillard has this acting quality that makes me feel strained i think it's all the saliva that flies out yeah that you stabbed me too many times billy that mouth man yeah it was really intense he's really annoying in hackers but this was oh this was the right place for matthew hillard at the time and i have rewatched that more recently than not just to see that's really bad that shit's all over the place yeah we could talk about how that movie it does not hold up yeah hackers is so difficult that was really a product of his time i like everyone in it johnny lee miller is always good johnny lee miller but even he is not very good in hackers oh that must have been early in his faking in america and i feel like angelina jolie was so exploited in that movie but it's fine yeah i mean it's not fine it's i i did not mean it like that it's yeah that was the time it's just one of those things back then i would never have thought that i watched that movie now i'm like they exploited the [ __ ] out of this woman was she in ga yet oh i feel like that was probably right before yeah it was either right before or right after yeah they were both to do that sort of thing at the time what late 90s yeah i talk a lot i i know that it's uncomfortable to film sex scenes for actors but i miss people [ __ ] in movies

you know it's a real part of life and i know you can make you know i don't necessarily i have an upgrade i don't want to watch [ __ ] crash by david cronenberg yeah there's there's a weird absence of sex scenes i guess they were becoming sort of perfunctory like you were jamming sex scenes and unnecessarily and it was probably pretty uncomfortable for the actors and i'm sure they don't want to do them so we do a lot of like dancing around sex scenes now yeah it's not as it used to be more of a blunt blunt kind of thing yeah but at the same time you know when i look for something smutty and if i'm going to read a book or something like that it tends to be when you're looking for somebody yeah every now and then yeah yeah you know i'm like i'm keeping an eye out like oh really i'm a fan of sex scenes and books i mean i don't see 50 shades of grey anywhere in here in this room yeah is it hiding i tend to i tend to go for the stuff that's like it's a lot of build up to the sex and the sex is disappointing yeah no it is one of those things they don't they don't do it how they used to yeah long watchman style sex scene in the middle of the movie which i thought watchman actually did pretty well yeah there's a scene in slc punk what uh him and his love interest yeah it's kind of gross there's a long acid trip sequence too there's the most realistic depiction of an acid trip i think i've seen in a movie from that time yeah it's you can tell the it's an open relationship of sorts but not really he's like on the cusp of he just saw devin sawa again and he's he's a [ __ ] beggar now man yeah he sucks post acid leg trip yeah so taking all this acid like turns you into a homeless man yeah he he sees sean fried i'm a bum now yeah and leads to a very good scene where he tries to get a job oh hey

that's a great scene this movie was wait a couple minutes two or three minutes long maybe yeah yeah and it's just it's intense and it's like yeah that's a dude who's fried out of his gourd recently out of a hospital i need a job yeah yeah and i ran a restaurant i remember people like that they come in and be like hey man i want to work here have you sold women's clothes before yeah why would i wear women's clothes and then it's like the contradictions coming from him and then he gets mad at her and he's like i'm not gonna [ __ ] get i don't need this job but yeah that i have integrity

i get that i felt that too like yeah well that's when you have that crisis i've seen people that i knew back in the day on this the corner of i-35 you know you know i know somebody it's uh so you know some people have you seen so and so on the corner breaker in 35 and i'm like you that it hurts it hurts bad yeah i mean i didn't give them any money but it's fine no it's things happen in life out of people's control there's and there's sometimes there's nothing you can do about it yourself yeah but the way they developed these characters was really kind of it had a different effect on me when i was a kid i was watching this decline of his punk rock as being this like oh man what a defeat he's not gonna be punk anymore i'm gonna be [ __ ] metal for life you know but now i was like oh i get it and i get the attachment to it one of my favorite lines in the whole movie is right before the closing credits matthew lillard attends the funeral and after the funeral he's sitting on a bench and there's a point where he says i guess when all is said and done i was nothing more than a goddamn trendy ass poser because at this point he's realizing it's time to conform well i don't even think he realizes that it's time to conform i just think he at the end of it he realizes it doesn't [ __ ] matter yeah and then that's more what you realize when you you fall out of that as you get older is it doesn't matter that i show off who i am to everybody else yeah and that was kind of the most punk rock [ __ ] granted it's the 80s reagan era he becomes a lawyer and he's like i'm going to [ __ ] the system up from inside the [ __ ] is [ __ ] up now man it's not good the economy sucks getting a job sucks trickle down what yeah yeah thanks a lot reagan you [ __ ] yeah it's it's a good movie you know you made the fight club comparison then versus now and it's the same thing it doesn't hit the same way but you're seeing it from a different perspective and you're realizing there are those plot points sean even mike the hardcore jason siegel character we were talking about yeah what if seagull was the heart of it he becomes a botanist at the end of it he goes to school for botany he wants to save the rainforest he like punches the table i'm gonna do this good early jason siegel after freaks and geeks but before everything else everything else everything else that makes jason siegel great and then uh yeah hugo stieglitz character mark disappears you know he comes to say goodbye we never saw mark again hugo stieglitz it was hugo and gloria's bastard oh that's right he wasn't that wasn't he oh my god you're like why does frank keep saying this random name his name is till swagger no it's hugo [ __ ] um yeah but he has to i don't even think that's really his voice because he's talking in this high-pitched german accent it's one of those that i can't even replicate if you he's like i got this place beta max laser disk oh that's what it was [ __ ] laser disc i can't even see i can't do it i can't do an impression of that how many people do you think are out there with hd dvds hd dvds yeah you remember they failed oh i remember somebody has this has a collection with that separate weird little player because remember they were like rectangle shaped every time i saw them like it looked like a drive yeah they were for your desktop but i feel so bad for people who threw in on that they were like i like hd dvd blu-ray was creeping right there behind him this was also the i think south park kind of showed me what mormonism was i had never really thought about it when i was younger and this was the first time i was brought up as an oppressive force in something when i was a kid slc punk was the only exposure i had to it and it was something i really didn't pay attention to yeah and they really didn't get into it that much other than the town was founded on these religious values and they bring up that it's zion i don't think i even caught all that stuff well at one point um olympia and i had neighbors in this apartment building two younger guys from utah and they moved to austin because you know it's austin yeah so they were just coming to see what was up but they told us a lot about utah and being a mormon in what it means if you go against the grain it's kind of fascinating and ridiculous well what i learned was blm is a beast the bureau of land management there's there's weird things that come out of utah that i'm like right on man like they made it they made it illegal to call the police on your neighbors for letting their kids play outside alone unsupervised because they were like that's a perfectly normal part of child development stop [ __ ] calling cops on your neighbors like the kids need to play alone and i was like right on [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah yeah because my childhood was great and we were [ __ ] completely unmonitored well yeah well one of the things they touched on that movie in the 80s i'm not sure what the laws are like now but the state-run liquor stores uh i'm sure they're still pretty strict even here was it hayes county was dry when we were in high school llano county a lot of the counties surrounding the country came out when i said llano county lanno county llano county was dry yeah you couldn't get nothing out there after a certain time yeah and i mean i didn't you know i didn't have too many other big notes on slc punk except for i i would watch it again i'm gonna let my kid watch it one day yeah for sure i'm gonna let meadow check that out i think that was a valid part of things i did i took it the wrong way when i was a kid i missed the message that it sent which i thought was pretty good i did not there is a slc punk too punk's not dead i don't think either of us have ever seen it i had completely dismissed it but scott's been telling me things about it on and off and now i'm i looked up a bunch of stuff about it heroin bob is in it even though he's dead i think it's his kid i want to say but it's the same writer same director he didn't really do a whole lot else after this and you said that you saw devin sawa in the credits yeah he's he's just being in the credits let's reprise the role of sean oh one thing i kind of hope he turns out okay actually i feel kind of bad for him i want to acknowledge what i found to be the most [ __ ] ridiculous part of slc punk what's that the blue mohawk oh the giant blue mohawk that he has when he's talking to his parents it was such a bad [ __ ] makeup job like it sticks out like a sore thumb yeah it was clearly glued onto it it was glued on with some it like super mohawk bounce the the glue the hair itself was fine but the apparatus as to you know attaching it to his head yeah that it was [ __ ] looking well i read in the trivia that he was supposed to have bleached hair and so he was bleaching it with peroxide and apparently gave him a rash all over his head so they dyed his hair blue to cover up the red that's why his hair is blue in the movie that's why it's blue in the movie the character was supposed to have just peroxide bleached hair but something about the peroxide like irritated his scalp so bad maybe that's why all my hair fell out and i have such a shitty hairline because i used to hydrogen peroxide the [ __ ] out of my hair maybe i don't know my hair's real fried right remember we turned that red color i almost looked calico i don't know why i remember that i guess it was orange there was at one point in high school i dyed my hair black and then had to color strip the hair to get it to be brown again and so that meant i had to color strip it turned your hair bright orange and like gritty you know like it felt like sand it was [ __ ] up and i felt like we would do stupid [ __ ] or at least i did i really wanted it to be like a platinum blonde or white and the way i thought to do it was to go find the strongest blonde of the more expensive dye yeah girls have figured that out now i like it too i i really think it's cool looking well my hair is like dark gray white hair mine would just turn orange it never got well that's that's what your hair color is when you strip color from it like it's just an orange young me was like it's going to be like on the box yeah that's what i was an idiot no you got to do that and then diet some other thing yeah so between getting the most platinum blonde dye i could find in hydrogen peroxiding the [ __ ] out of my hair my goal was not achieved yeah i never reached it bowl haircuts there was so much effort i don't i don't miss any of that you know buying expensive weird clothing that isn't going to even last i know i think the only pair of kick wear i have i turned into like kick wear shorts i hung onto one of those giant pairs of pants for a long time but i don't know where they are now i honestly feel like i have that one pair that i turned into shorts in a box somewhere yeah i hope somebody took them and made 10 pants for small children denim denim denim yeah

so this was a good movie as far as is it a good movie i i like i liked doing one that we got to go back and re-watch something that i hadn't seen in a long time and out of what we've watched so far and discussed this is the one that i've watched the most they're not all gonna be like this though we're gonna go back and watch some movies and talk about them and they're gonna be not as good for sure it's gonna happen like a few movies i've gone back to watch recently for that re it's this is not what i remember it's not as good i'm so sorry olympia that i made you watch troy

i'm so sorry that i made her watch troy and i thought it was in some way a good movie it's not like robin hood prince of thieves which is even better look man if you got brian adams on the soundtrack is bryan adams on the troy soundtrack are you talking about prince of peace prince of thieves oh yeah yeah not even do you remember a three musketeers movie with uh charlie sheen and kiana or key for sutherland versus other london yeah and on the soundtrack it had rod stewart brian adams and sting all on the same thing it's like they put the [ __ ] tips of their penis together and white light came out for this [ __ ] jesus dude hey we should watch labyrinth sometime i can't believe i watched that so much as a kid yeah that bulge man i oh it always blows my mind did you watch mind hunter yeah so the guy from mind hunter is like the prince or whatever and frozen i've never seen frozen but like yeah even with a kid that's one that he's like i'm just not interested he's like a broadway like musical theater guy and in mind hunter he doesn't even talk he doesn't really talk at all i love the character though and i did not watch season two olympia told me not to i liked it it was all right season two yeah okay wait what were we talking about i blanked out um you want to talk about kids movies um

no i didn't watch frozen moana's the jam you know i don't want to talk about kids movies no you don't want to talk about in kanto not unless it's stuff we watch secret and m that [ __ ] goes real hard which one secret of nim you never watched that oh it's just been along with the rats and the men yeah no no i've seen it but that was not in my regular rotation i was more of a little mermaid uh sleeping beauty yeah i was a [ __ ] up kid it was like the watership down cartoon oh i was yeah i did american tale an american tale and an american tale is fifo goes west brutal man oh i cried as a kid so i'm [ __ ] no i'm not watching that now fightful dude don't don't get me started yeah the whole [ __ ] song just popped into my head no

so yes this is a good movie what are we watching next time um we're in between congo and killing of a sacred deer oh what do we do amy love let's do something silly let's do conga take your hands off my sesame cake yeah i for sure haven't seen congo since the 90s so that's gonna be a weird one i remember bruce campbell's in it yeah bruce campbell is on it i'll watch anything bruce campbell laura linney ernie hudson and joe p oh and that gorilla from the pepsi commercial

patsy amy love amy love peter so you remember a lot about this movie it's a guilty pleasure movie i watched it like once every other year i don't know i do watch it when i see it sometimes okay i'm switching it up let's do killing of mistakes because i'm way too familiar you're way too familiar with congo we're gonna hold off on it i'm not as familiar with congo i do want to do congo maybe we'll do conga the next time let's do killing of sacred deer because i made it halfway through that movie and fell asleep not because i thought it was boring or just i don't remember anything my name is yeah so frank remembers some stuff about killing a second deer but at least we'll have this well that was from congo oh

oh [ __ ] okay oh god what's his name oh real quick what's his name rocky horror picture show tim curry all right yeah he's pennywise i'm looking for the lost city of zing i really do want to watch congo but we're we're going to do killing of a sacred deer next time because i kind of want to see it i feel like this has the potential to just be a good movie it might be really weird though it's so weird okay does that be a lot to talk about that's good too yeah all right everybody until next time when we watch a killing of a sacred deer not congo not congo we'll do congo soon i promise thanks everyone for joining us for the last video store clerks podcast be sure to leave a rating and subscribe you can find us on twitter @lastclerks instagram at thelastvideostoreclerks and you can find scott at dispatchesfromthepit.com