Episode 16

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3rd Aug 2022

The Mist

The Mist! It's like The Walking Dead, but with Mist!

No one wanted to rent this when it came out, now it's on the Netflix top ten.

Frank Darabont directs a fistful of Walking Dead cast members, Thomas Jane, Marcia Gay Harden, Andre Braugher, and William Sadler.

Stephen King tentacle monsters!

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The Mist

Scott: [:

Frank: blockbuster, Hollywood, and the independent

Scott: video store over. But the days of searching the shelves for hidden gems and overlook call classics is never ending. Join us while

Frank: we drown in a sea of streaming options and ask the question, what the hell

Scott: is a good movie.

Anyway, I'm Frank I'm Scott.

Frank: And where are the last video store clerks?

it was always about Kirkman or

Scott: I, I think I'm, uh, more of a fan of Darabont. Yeah. I mean his

Frank: resume's definitely way thicker.

Scott: Yeah, it's a, it's a cool resume. Definitely more. I'm. I'm glad we watched The Mist this week. Cuz when we picked it. I did not think that that was going to be in the top 10 on Netflix.

I didn't think that it

Frank: was what, a 7.1 on IMDB. It blew me away. I've always thought of it as a movie that I liked, but I didn't know that IMDB liked it to the point of

could [:

Frank: Yeah. Some of the movies that I consider, some of the best movies are right there at the low sevens for this to be a seven one. It didn't kill it at the box office or anything.

Scott: Oh, no, not at all. No, not

Frank: at all.

Scott: it didn't but like, uh, this week, The only real thing of note that I watched was I watched black bear finally.

Oh, you watched black bear. Yeah. Aubrey Plaza. Yeah. It was nuts. It's crazy. And it started really fucking slow but it was like a David Lynch movie that kind of made sense. You

and

Frank: there was a little bit of, well, what the fuck is going because you knew there was something well, yeah, without going in, I'm just trying not to go, not to be super vague, but I'm just trying to give

Scott: I necessarily, but like, I don't know who I would recommend that to.

I wouldn't feel comfortable recommending that to most people and not because it's like fucked up or anything like that. I just, I liked it. It makes you feel awkward. I don't think Kelly would've wanted to watch it if Aubrey Plaza wasn't the lead.

lympia only would've watched [:

Scott: if I had known I would've been like, you're not.

Did she, did she watch it with you? Yeah, it was her idea. and I was like, that movie was the exact structure of lost highway oh, it's the exact same structure as lost highway. Wow. It's two separate things, except I guess bill Pullman doesn't turn into ballots or getting

it was like the indie rock version of lost highway and lost highway is like nine inch nails. Black bear was like the Decemberists you know, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. But she was really good. Fantastic. Aubrey Plaza, acting performance.

Frank: Yeah, she does. Great. And I love that she's a weirdo in real. Yeah, me too.

It's awesome that somebody can be that fucking weird all like all

anna watch anchor goes west. [:

Frank: the one Aubrey Plaza that I haven't seen.

Scott: She, she actually told me that she asked me if I wanted to see it. And I'm pretty sure I just wasn't paying attention to what she and I just went. Yeah, no, I don't care. You know but it's no, it's a good

Frank: movie. I'd re I mean, I would recommend it, like you're saying, I guess black bear or

Scott: angry ghost. Bless black bear.

Oh,

Frank: okay. I don't know exactly who I would recommend it to, but if I was. If it felt right. I would, you know?

Scott: Yeah.

Frank: I would watch, I watched it again down the road now that I know where that's going, just to see if I can catch little stuff. Yeah. It was weird. I liked it though. I'm sure there's breadcrumbs sprinkled.

Yeah, it was a all through it. If you were to watch it again, knowing what you

but I think that if you take [:

I I'd have to rewatch it and makes perfect sense. No, uh,

Frank: it's been too long. I'd need a refresher before I could.

Scott: Yeah, that, that should, I'm sure your spot on crazy. I love David Lynch, but at the same time, we should probably do lost highway one day. Cuz I don't know if I really like that movie you know what I mean?

I've seen it a lot. I owned it for years on VHS. It's so fucked up and so weird, but I'm not sure that I didn't watch it the first time cuz I was like boobs

Frank: yeah. And I said, I, it might have been you who got me to.

Scott: I think I might have made you watch it a few times. Maybe that's

Frank: why I'm not remembering it all the way.

Cause maybe we did watch it a few

an't, you can't do it. Yeah. [:

Frank: No. Anything else? Do you see anything else?

Scott: Interesting. Other than that, I really just watched XFiles the only note that I like wrote down and I was like, talk about this on the podcast.

Why is Mulder always sticking his bare fingers in goo all the time? Is he

Frank: not glove

Scott: up? When he touches stuff? He is constantly touching shit. Just goo, like, he'll be like, oh, what's that. And you're like, man, some of that shit is acid. Well, I mean, he's had what, with the shape shifters, they got acid blood man, stop touching all the goo,

Frank: all the stuff that's been through his system.

You know what? He had his brain wiped after the, like one of those first episodes he had.

Scott: Oh, and the amount of concussions, those two get, yeah. They

Frank: age uncontrollably at some point. So he is got that in the system, the little bugs in the woods. Did those actually get into them and they stopped it right before it happened.

I can't. Or did the bugs never get in? I can't remember. I need

Scott: to re yeah. When Skelly got stung by that bee in the

Frank: movie. Oh, the bees. Yeah. But

ching it out cause I'm like, [:

We're just now through episode four. Oh, but what I wanted to mention to you was I started watching ban. She. Ban again. Do you remember banty it was an HBO series. It might have been a cinema series come to think of it, but it's on HBO max. Oh, the main character is Homeland Uhuh. And I remember being like this show's fucking good.

and I also think this show is more offensive than the boys. it's very good though. And I wanna rewatch the whole thing,

Frank: man. How many seasons is it? Three seasons. Three seasons? Yeah. That's doable. What like 10 season or is it like an 18 or I, I think it's 24,

Scott: 10 or eight. Okay. I can't even remember. It might be 11 the first season, for some

Frank: reason, I know the numbers of episodes and seasons on different networks.

8, 10, 11, 13 was

Scott::

Frank: I felt around 20, 23, but if it was like a last [00:07:00] season, it was like 17.

All of a sudden, you know, there wouldn't be as

Scott: many that last season lost. It's like 16 for the last season. It's only 12 or 13 for the's long time since I've the last train. Yeah. The first two seasons have lost are 23 episode seasons. He wasn't on the

Frank: manifest, which is always every time we talk about it, just have fucking Ethan and the way that Claire runs that's our best laugh of the whole series.

yeah, no, I mean the first time we wa it was just like, what. It was one of the most awkward things you'll ever see. Not everybody has to be an athlete,

Scott: but pregnant, Claire run is not so good.

Frank: it was, it was a highlight of the show for me though. I remember it. I can picture the scene. It's like across the beach, maybe she has a hoodie on or something or, yeah, let's not go there cuz it's been

Scott: years.

hat if you go on a trip with [:

Frank: Yeah, we had tons of fun, but definitely stayed busy a lot.

You know? Colorado's great. I'd go back anytime. But yeah, so we didn't record last week. I watched a lot of TV there in the evenings. What'd you watch

Scott: while we were there off note anyway.

Frank: so while we were there, there was five different people. So we had to just decide, you know, you couldn't get too deep.

Chances are people were gonna pass out anyway. Yeah, you're too diplomatic. Oh no. They were talking about a horror movie though. So they looked to me. But somebody, there was horror movie sensitive, like didn't like gore, this and that. And we were going through the list and I was like, Christine and I chuckled.

And they were like, what's Christine. And I was like, what the fuck? Yeah. And I was like, what did you just say? What's Christine. So I was like, okay, I'm gonna pull the, the card here. And you know, this is a classic, it's just, you have to watch Christine. It's I feel like it's one of the John Carpenter movie.

It's a staple

arpenter. like don't slander [:

Frank: that's awesome. No, I love it. So yeah, I mean we did, we did Christine.

I fell asleep before the very end, my bad edibles.

Scott: I've seen Christine hundreds of times. Yeah. I know what happens like Christine, Carrie, those early Stephen King movies, Carrie. Fucked me up when I was a kid. Well, Kujo,

Frank: Kujo scared the shit outta me. My, we were always watching Kujo when I was like five Kujo raid, PG that doesn't surprise me.

Yeah. Cause it's

Scott: goes back over it's pre PG 13 rating. Oh

Frank: yeah. No, those eighties kids movies with cities in them pulled Geist, PG. So many things. Stephen, Steven, close your mind. The cigarettes,

Scott: the drinking. The, I feel like Stephen or Steven Spielberg was lobbying to keep all this stuff. PG . So, cause he was like, which thank you, sir, because the shit that really scared me is like a huge part of who I am now.

If he hadn't let all those movies stay jaws. PG.

Frank: No it's mind blowing. I can't think of some of the ones that I've seen with like a ton of nudity or just like, just really inappropriate shit. That's like, no, this

Scott: is [:

like, tried, it's

Frank: been a while since I've had that. But that's what I'm looking for right now though, by

Scott: the way. But something to really fucking knock her socks off. Yeah. But

Frank: yeah. Yeah. But I mean, on the, we mixed it up a lot, so, I mean then there was Harold and Kumar go to white castle. We

Scott: watched the wedding singer.

Oh, Kelly was having a bad day. I hadn't seen it. Aunt Linda. You abeit God, I don't think I've seen it in 10 years or something like that, man. It is. Oh, it's probably longer than that. For me. It's more eighties than. Any eighties movie I've ever seen, like the dress and, uh, everything, everything. I actually thought Adam Sandler was like louder and angrier in that movie than, than he was.

Yeah, no. Yeah, no, it it's a very calm Adams. I mean, you go other than the woo

ding do

Frank: no, um, I [:

Scott: up as much.

Frank: I loved that. I loved it. I watched it this time. I was like, what the

Scott: fuck? We maybe sometime during the pandemic we were, I'll never rewatch

Frank: not support that movie. I, I will. I'll always love bill. It just didn't hit the same. Well,

Scott: we rewatched, uh, happy Gilmore.

It didn't hit the same, but he Gilmore holds up still

Frank: really good. I think it's just because, you know, he plays like a child essentially in Billy Madison. Yeah. And so there's that whole thing at where he is doing to where know penguin penguin. Yeah. And he just. It's just bonkers, you know, it's bat shit.

And Chris Farley did the same shit, but at least Chris Farley get like the oh, N no. Woo. You know, he would really just take it up

Scott: notches. I fucking hated Beverly Hills Andro when it came out, like I was like, this movie sucks. See that I turned it off. One of my favorites better now. Better now. Yeah. I enjoyed

Frank: it now.

I did black sheep more recently than like Tommy

Scott: boy. Tommy [:

Frank: story. Yeah. Black sheep got some chuckles outta me though. And I would love to watch Tommy boy, just that never comes on shit.

It seems like who's

Scott: your favorite little rascal. it? Alfa or Spanky

that dude was the best smoking token. you know, I think that's part of the reason you hate Kevin James so much is because Kevin, James gets the parts that were written for Chrisley, Chris Farley now. So like grownups and shit like that, that's supposed to

Frank: be Chris Farley. Did you know that Chris Farley, uh, Shrek was supposed to be Chris

Scott: far?

Oh, no shit. They started it, man. Wow.

Frank: Chris barley

Scott: was gonna be Shrek and then they picked Mike Myers. Well, he died. It went through like a period. Oh. And then they were like, oh yeah, let's yeah. Let's make

even the, uh, those initial [:

Like it's not the Shrek, it was close, but it's not the Shrek that we know

Scott: today. You know, Shrek is the second movie I ever walked. No way. Yeah. I went to see it. I smoked a ton of weed Uhhuh. me and our friend, Nick went out to Barton Creek mall to watch fucking Shrek walked out. He was like, you look really unhappy.

Do you wanna leave? And I was like, I fucking hate this movie. And it was Eddie Murphy. You couldn't do it. Fucking donkey dis me off. Like, I was just like, I can't handle this right now. I don't know if I was too stoned or anything. I've never gone back. Never watched this Trek movie. Never, never there's you know,

Frank: there's good adult humor for like a kid's movie.

I, I would

Scott: think so. And then the

Frank: references, like the fairytale references, but they've got that twist on him.

Scott: You know, I've seen clips of John Lithgow in the other one and been like, that's fucking funny. No, I'm telling you like the muffin man thing.

Frank: It's one of those that crack me up. Yeah. It's one of those kids movies where they really know how to get

Scott: to the adults as well.

ie Murphy was annoying me in [:

Frank: I, I did. I had a lot, um, just. Real quick. I put on something for the kid one night, cuz we were eating dinner and I was just like, yeah, I wanna watch something.

But then, so I tried something old on her. I didn't watch mighty more power Rangers as a kid. Oh,

Scott: did you watch uh, the new one? No, I

Frank: watched the, the 90, the 95 1. Oh the movie, the

Scott: movie. I didn't watch the show when I was a kid, but I did watch that movie and liked it.

Frank: Okay. So here's the thing I wanted to watch the show, but you weren't cool at my age if you watched it.

So like if it was on for the

Scott: younger kids, just a little bit too old, I would

Frank: be in the cafeteria and I'd gotten to watch it. So I'd get to see those episodes that were on TV and you'd catch 'em at home sometimes. And that I liked, but I couldn't like it cuz it wasn't

Scott: cool. I wanted to watch it cuz I, that pink ranger was cute.

Frank: Yeah, she was in one of those pre Fontain movies.

Scott: She did a cameo at the end of the new power Rangers movie. Oh, did she? Yeah. And Brian Cranston reprises his role as the big giant head thing. Awesome.

Frank: Yeah. Well, I watched it and I was like, man, the DM TV show looked a lot better than the 95 movie. And you know, that was, oh, did it?

t's saying something because [:

Scott: really fucking. But I enjoyed that new one, the new,

Frank: I haven't seen the new one.

Scott: yeah. I, I need to watch it again and need

Frank: to watch it again. But you did.

Didn't you say you checked out that new bill bur oh yeah. I watched

Scott: the new bill bur yeah. Yeah, it was, it was good. I needed that. I appreciate him.

Frank: Shaming everyone. Yes. Same. He doesn't pick a target group to shame. He will shame fucking anyone and everyone, if he thinks it's fucking stupid and I agree, he's even older than I am.

I'm getting it sprinkle that old man anger though. Yeah. But I love

Scott: his perspective on the shit. Well, the jokes that hit home with me are always the ones about his dad, because like I had 70 step, like who had already raised kids and stuff. I

Frank: had that older thinking with my parents and grandparents, you know, I came up with that shit,

Scott: you know?

Yeah. They, I was get the fuck away from them. They're terrifying. People do not let them

fucking often. Oh, for sure. [:

Scott: I learned as an adult to appreciate the grit that it gave me.

Mm-hmm , you know, being afraid of somebody. Well, we had

Frank: someone over who's like, you know, I'm liberal, but you know, we had someone over who was way, you know, and I felt a little awkward for putting it on and I wasn't sure if they were enjoying it, I'll have to ask, but I almost felt awkward. It's his approach to everything.

Scott: Yeah. He wants to make everyone mad.

Frank: Yes. Yeah. And so, but I had no shame. I was like, this is, I like this. Yeah. I, I like how he's front. He doesn't beat around the Bush. You know, he might be a little off on a couple things. well that's but it's

Scott: fine. What a joke is is when you say something you're not supposed to say, and everyone laughs, cuz you're not supposed to say that.

Yes. And that's what a joke is and the

. [:

It's on Netflix. I'd be surprised if it never popped up in the recommended for you, or at least when you go to the

sci-fi

Scott: category, it might have. My Netflix is very confused lately because I had, did your algorithm get off? Well, I had the same account for years, and then Kelly was like, we're both paying for Netflix.

And so you went to hers. This was before we got married. And so she was like, well, I can't cancel mine. My mom watches that one. So you let go of yours. I let my years. Of rating things and everything go. And it was part, I never knew that because I was like, I'm kind of tired of it. Not showing me things I've already watched.

I don't think I understood

Frank: that about you, Scott. I feel like you've lied to me.

Scott: well, I went in and I did some work. I did a lot of work. Like setting it up, you some things. Yeah, everything. But I was getting kind of frustrated that I was like, there's nothing on Netflix.

Frank: I have. So sometimes now is Kelly, like what the fuck is this?

od. No good deal. Good deal. [:

In two different lights. I, it

Frank: completely escaped my mind that you guys would be on two different. That makes complete sense. Cuz yeah, mine with Olympia are

Scott: night and day. Oh yeah. Her, she has a profile. I have a profile.

Frank: Yeah. The night, night and day. Cuz every now and then hers is still on and

Scott: I'm like, wait a minute.

Yeah. I don't think that the H has enough stuff for algorithms. So some of those, we don't have it, uh, prime. We have separate profiles, stuff like that. Uh, it

Frank: depends, but yeah, level 16. It's sci-fi I couldn't tell. I was like, I could see where they were going and I really wanted to like it. You still don't know.

I still don't know. So I mean that's one, if you wanna check it out, we might need

Scott: to visit that one. Then

Frank: level 16, if you wanna check out a trailer, go ahead. It cuz it's been popping up, popping up, popping up. So I watched it one

we watched the mist and uh, [:

When I was a little kid, when I was eight, nine years old, I rented or I not rented. I took out from the public library and audio. Performance of the mist. That was an hour, 10 minutes long. It was in 3d audio sound. And I, I have it pulled up here. I'm gonna show it to you when we're done. Yeah. Just so you can see what it is.

I meant show it to you beforehand. this was the first Stephen King thing and it scared the shit out of me. And so to prepare for this episode, before I even watched the movie, I, again, I've seen the movie once or twice. I actually own it. And the reason I own it is because I bought it when it came out, because I know that this movie was supposed to be released in black and white and the movie studio pulled that and was like, no, no way.

ay he wanted it done. He was [:

and. He said no. And he did it with dimension. I thought that was really fucking cool, but he also wanted it to be in black and white, which when we talked about the monsters I think they might have looked a little better that way.

Frank: yeah. Okay. We won't talk about it

Scott: now. We're we're at a certain year of, but when we picked this movie, it was not in the top 10 on Netflix.

It had come up on Netflix and neither of us had seen it in

Frank: years. See, we, we talked about watching it, so that's when it broke into the top 10.

Scott: Yeah, it was because of us of us. Oh

Frank: yes. Was somebody was listening and they were like, you know what? Others need to see this.

Scott: Oh, let's fuck their shit up. We're gonna rub the mist in their face.

No, it's fine. Uh, that's even better because probably some of the people listening have seen this fucking movie now. And, uh, this came out when I was at the video store and same it, uh, no one was interested in watching it.

Frank: That's what [:

I'm pretty sure it was on like the new release wall the whole time I was

Scott: there. it was not a heavily rented thing. And I really, really like this movie because this was my entry point, man. This scared the shit outta me. This was my graduation from goosebump books, you know? yeah.

Frank: Welcome to

Scott: the grown world.

Well, I'll give you a, a very brief summary. Well, and just so

Frank: you watched it,

Scott: you read it. I watched it. I read it and I listened to the audio performance of it. Again, overkill,

Frank: you went

Scott: hard in the pain. This book is 170 pages long. I had two weeks to read. Not a fucking problem. you're like, child's play. Yeah, this child's play fucking baby shit for me, that's nothing.

pages long just to be in the [:

Frank: of my mom's friends had that book. That's a big, that's a big

Scott: book. I've got it. It's, it's huge.

That's a biggie. I have one of the early copies of when they released the full uncut version of the stand. And let me tell you, the uncut version is not better than the original cut. Stephen King kind needs an editor.

Frank: So when did that not to catch you off guard, when did that book drop? Like when did that book seventies?

Was it seventies? Not eighties. Yeah. Okay. That's where I didn't know. So it was seventies. Yeah. I wanna

Scott: say it was the seventies. I can't be, I don't my dates on when Stephen King books came out. Mm-hmm Carrie is the seventies. Yes. Christine seventies sounds lot seventies. When all that stuff came out. I have no fucking idea cause I wasn't alive.

yeah. it was before your time, but there are like, there are actually Stephen King books. I am saving cuz I'm afraid he'll die and I won't have any more. Stephen King books. I'll still have Joe. No didn't Joe accident

Frank: while jogging

by a car. That was it. This. [:

Yeah. Like way back

Frank: then. Yep. Yep. That's what I was thinking. I think

Scott: he wrote dream catcher when he was also Thomas Jane

Uh, so this summary is the briefest summary. I think I've ever written because I don't, I don't wanna give you a blow by blow this movie. It's pretty simple. As far as its idea goes, cuz this was originally released. It's a novel, but it was in skeleton crew, which is a short story comp. It was the first one in it.

It's 170 pages long. I'll get into the differences between the book and the movie. And the audio was thinking about when I was watching this movie, I am interested in seeing the parts of the, how you took certain parts of it because I love adaptations of things. Sometimes they're better for me. My wife said the same thing because I know what these people are.

ation. Uh, I sometimes enjoy [:

Doesn't like it. I don't care. I think that he got the drunk dad thing, recovering alcoholic father nailed it. Battling the inner demons and Stanley K doesn't come out and say things. And I like the way he did it. So, but I also, I really like the book. I do not like the miniseries because hedge animals are not scary they were in the book.

Yeah. But they had their time. Yeah. The mist after a storm, knocks out the power and downs trees and smashes the boathouse in the studio of artist, David Drayton played by better than Aaron Ahart Thomas Jane. Yes. And ominous mist begins to creep across the lake, behind their house. He leaves his wife, Steph at home to clean up and heads to the grocery store in Bridgeton.

spaper it's castle rock, but [:

Frank: So, and I know the exact scene. You're talking about the paper that said castle rock.

Yeah. But I feel like it was mentioned once in dialogue, as far as

Scott: Stephen King geography goes, castle rock is very close to where Bridgeton is in the real world. Mm-hmm because Bridgeton is not a fictional Stephen King town. It's in Maine, but. Is it Maine? Yes. Uh, Chester's mill in, under the dome is the fictionalized version of Bridgeton.

so chew on that for a while. Pink stars are falling. Yes. Yeah. Pink, pink stars. Pink stars are falling. Yes. Did you watch the show? Yeah. Oh, it's

Frank: terrible. Yeah. The no Olympia would be like, are you watching pink stars are falling? And I was like,

Scott: yes, not the best even king book ending, but I really fucking like that book.

I really like it. Oh, it's got

Frank: what's his name in it. I had to watch it. Ah, he's that guy who's in every live fire exercise. Oh

he's in fucking breaking bad [:

Frank: Walt is oh yeah. Not fucking Walt. Uh, yeah. Fuck. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Um, Hank, Hank.

Scott: Yeah. Sorry, Hank. But, uh, and he was perfectly cast for that role, but Brian Kon was developing that as a series for HBO and then it eventually moved to stars. And then that's the one that had that character Barbie yeah. Ended up at CBS mm-hmm it's just once it got to CBS, it got CBS quality acting.

Frank: Yeah. It's why I couldn't watch manifest.

Scott: Fucking

Frank: sucks. I'm sorry. I'm glad. I'm glad we're on the same page. I've tried it two or three times, man. I quit. I've tried it two or three times.

Scott: I quit watching manifest three episodes in and I was like, this cheap fucking lost ripoff can suck my ball. and then Kelly watched all of it up to five episodes, shy of where it gets canceled and quit there.

dude. That's and I was like, is there any more of a fuck you to this show that you watched over two

en stopped five episodes and [:

Scott: My friend said he looked it up to see if it was Christian propaganda. I do not understand. And Stephen King has recently been on Twitter talking about how he's like for them bringing the series back, which that's weird, but I, it made me curious not enough to go watch it again, though.

The fucking acting is terrible.

Frank: Yeah, we just, I call it two Kaly.

Scott: NBC is not great with sci-fi

Frank: series. No, there's, there's a certain corniness, not, not even just corniness, just lack of depth, maybe

Scott: straight up shortest summary I've ever written and still, already deviated. yeah. Start over here. He leaves his wife, Steph at home to clean up and heads the grocery store in Bridgeton, Maine.

, captain hut, Andre Brower. [:

Love crafty, tentacle, monsters, and giant pink and gray insects from a rift, rather a Thinni from a Stephen King nerds. opened up by local military installment operating under the name, the Arrowhead project, which gives me that's why stranger things is so good. Cuz there's so much Stephen King in there.

Trapped in the store for two days with classic Stephen King archetypes. And of course, including a crazy church lady played by Marcia gay harden who is fucking great in this. David must fight to survive, not just the monsters, but the darkness that rises within the panic towns folk. That's why this movie was supposed to be black and white.

e trapped and trapped in the [:

Frank: take over more than

Scott: anything. Yeah. And they're like freaking out and I would go in the attic and we should go in the basement and blah, blah, blah.

And this is what we should do. And Barbara's screaming and shit, you know, like

Frank: what's, they do lay it on in this movie and it is openly mentioned. My she's like, it's only been two days, two days. Yeah. And people have, I feel like that's what happened in real life though. Yeah. Give it two fucking days were fucked.

We're screwed after two

Scott: days. And it was same. I don't know if Stephen King meant it to be like that, but a lot of the time, the people, the survivors that are like locked away trying to survive, go at each other in Stephen King stuff. And that's what makes it so much scarier. Human

Frank: nature's gonna take over.

Humans are

Scott: violent and this was adapted and directed by Stephen King fucking veteran and walking dead developer, Frank Darabont who directed the green mile and the shawsank redemption, arguably two of the best adaptations of Stephen King's work. The

Frank: bitches didn't get Andy that night. ,

een the Shawshank redemption [:

Yeah. Like people like largely feel like that's their favorite movie. And I just, I saw it and I was like, this is so good. I was like, I need to read this one. Cause I've read everything else in that book. Mm-hmm at pupil and, uh, the body and was just stand by me and then. There's another one in it that I can't remember what it was.

Sundog maybe. I can't remember. You're the Stephen King guy, man. Yeah, but I that's one of the ones I'm saving. there's other really great Stephen King adaptations dolos play born is such a good adaptation. Also none of those are fucking monster movies and here's a monster movie. Very few Stephen King stories are monster monster like Lovecraft monsters, like this one mm-hmm the MIS also features Lori Holden, Jeffrey Demond and Melissa McBride who are all walking, dead cast members.

listened to when I was a kid [:

Frank: shit. Wow. For my notes on him, I just put his name because he's one of those guys.

That's he's one of my favorites. He's in everything. Yeah. He's he's what's Hannah

Scott: tells from the crit. Oh, yes, he was, he was in Demon night. He's the main character well, yeah,

Frank: but I, no, no,

but

Scott: the show was he's in two episodes of til two, right? Yeah. He's in two episodes and he's in Demon night. Okay. He's in multiple episodes of the Twilight zone in the nineties.

Mm-hmm he's in outer limit's episodes. He's uh, the Janitor rats are rats are rats, fucking love William Sadler. I'm waiting guy. And he's the fucking Reaper in bill and Ted's bogus journey.

Frank: I made notes of those. I knew you would know, but yeah, I

Scott: fucking love bill Sadler. Bill Sadler is the shit.

Frank: You know, you were way more hardcore into the bill and TEDS.

But as soon as I saw that on, I was like,

voice. You heard him before [:

I had to listen to it on YouTube. You could buy an audio CD from Amazon, whoa, for $16.

Frank: They're like, we gotta clear the inventory, but we

Scott: still need to just put it on fucking audible. It's so cool. I'm gonna make you listen to like a little snippet of it. And you're gonna understand how like an eight year old would feel listening to this.

No, laying on his living room floor in like eighties fucking headphones.

Frank: those had such good PAing yeah,

Scott: those SOS man. They're

Frank: great. The pads were just so good back. They're so

Scott: big. There were a couple other people in this. Yeah, uh, crash down, man. Crash down was in this battle star, also his character, not in the book.

s of this movie is the first [:

Oh, no shit. Because that's how Steven King gets. He gets in with a character. So there's a lot more at the home life. Yeah. He just sits with him. So when I listened to the 3d audio version of this, when I was a kid, uh, I was so worried about his wife. Mm-hmm the whole time. Cause I was like, fucking, you gotta go home, man.

like, that's how I felt when I was a kid. And what's fucked up is, uh, in the book. Lots of spoilers in this one. So if, if you plan to read the book or something, you may wanna get outta here. Yeah. Uh, he fucks, uh, Andrea. Amanda, the teacher in, in the store, in the store, in the book. And so when I was a little older and I read the book, I was betrayed.

like, I was like, fucking step is at home. Like I still had that childhood fear of like, this kid's mom is at

Frank: home. Well, they did a good job with the googly eyes and the chemistry.

ere already having an affair [:

And is that what it meant? So that, so he cut all of it out and that makes perfect sense. It's not in the 3d audio because they were pretty

Frank: close from the get go and the eyes

Scott: in the line. I don't know if he didn't fill it or what mm-hmm he, he may have filmed it and then cut those parts out of the movie.

Yeah. To, to cover it up. I mean, did they bang on the floor

Frank: next to the dead?

Scott: No, I don't think so. They, they like bang in the manager's office or something in the book. Yeah. Also like in the book, it's his babysitter. Who is the cashier? Not a teacher at the school. So it's like a young, younger girl. Yeah.

Like not, not like a 16 year old girl, but like a college

Frank: age girl. Well, yeah. Can we do so she was one of the walking dead alums. Yeah. But she's also an X-Files alum. True. and there was a point in life. Uh, not enough faces Lauren Holly, really little bit when I was younger, when I was younger, because I thought for a hot second, Lauren, Holly was in the X-Files like I would remember, I am not

Scott: gonna lie.

I [:

Frank: opted out way sooner. She should have opted out at the CDC

Scott: fun fact though. He did this movie right before walking dead. Mm-hmm Tom Jane was supposed to play Rick shut the front door.

There was some sort of scheduling problem. And he couldn't film, man. I love me

Frank: some Andy Lincoln. But if that would've been Thomas, Jane is

Scott: Rick gross. Oh my God. It would've been so much better to me. Uh, but I fucking love Thomas

Frank: Jane. Andrew Lincoln is such like a good, funny guy. He's really good. He's really,

Scott: really good.

Andrew Lincoln. I think it funny HES like a British guy and that he nails that accent.

Frank: No, Andrew Lincoln. I, I take, I take it back. I love you so much, but that would've been like that would've been cool in an alternate universe.

Scott: Picked Thomas Thomas Jane. Excellent replacement. But I, I think it would've been really good with Thomas Jane, man.

Isn't that weird

Frank: though? That's really weird. I, I love me. So Thomas Jane though, but no, I, I love you, Andy Lincoln. You're the shit.

Scott: And it's cool. [:

Frank: dude, did you hear his punish your voice a couple

Scott: times in the mist? Yeah. You know, uh, another weird fact with this when they go to the pharmacy.

Yeah. I was massively jumping around and ditching in my whole fucking outline, but yes. I, uh, fuck it when they go to the thing and he gets the comic book for his kid. Yeah. He takes one off. He takes Hellboy.

Frank: Was that what he grabbed? I almost re wounded. He

Scott: wanted him to grab a Punisher, but Thomas Jane was mad at the guys who made Punisher.

He was like, I don't wanna do that. Had he already done Punisher before this he'd already recently? Yeah. Okay. And he was not gonna do another one cause he was pissed for some reason.

Frank: Okay. Real quick. Not to get you off anymore, but okay. In the movie the paintings.

Scott: No, let, let's jump around as much as we can.

I have so many notes of like things I noticed that were Stephen King university

Frank: says, okay, opening scene. He's an artist. He's at home. What? Okay. I saw the thing.

from the dark tower, Roland [:

Okay. And I had that, which is the only real way you can connect this to a lot of other Stephen King stuff. There's not a whole

Frank: lot of, but was the thing the, was the thing right

Scott: there. Yeah. The thing was

Frank: right there. What was to the left of that was that wizard of was that, was that not a Steven King? What was the one with the little girl next to the tree?

Do you know what that.

Scott: Oh, I didn't look closely enough to see all of 'em saw. I saw the thing. I almost wanted to one, cause I thought there maybe should be the fog too. Also John Carpenter. The there's definitely a Christine one in the room. No shit. Yeah. I didn't catch the Christine one. Yeah. There's a Christine poster in the room.

Fuck me.

Frank: And I had that in my notes. I knew I was

Scott: gonna talk about it. Yeah's son of a bitch. It's it's off to the side. Not, not super pre the thing in the dark tower. Were the, the ones that were in the front. Yes. And both very appropriate. The fog. Would've been a nice touch though. Maybe too on the nose. I

Frank: didn't know if you sat there and like rewind, rewind a little bit.

I

ver seen it. Okay. So, okay. [:

Frank: Yeah. Um, but no, it caught my eye cuz I was like, okay. I, I don't know Steven King as well as you do. So I was like, but I wonder if Scott caught other ones?

Scott: Well, the one he is painting, I was like, oh my God, it's fucking rolling. I didn't notice that the first time, because I love the dark tower.

That's where it all connects. Mm-hmm so, uh, but there were tons, tons, more Stephen King stuff in this, uh, the amount of people that were also in other Stephen King things. So captain Holt, Andre Brower, Andre Brower. He was in Salem's lot, way back in the day. Hmm. Uh, William Sadler, green mile Shaw and redemption mm-hmm same director.

Not a huge stretch in the audio play. That's fucking crazy to me. Yeah. Uh, Toby Jones. He's like a legendary actor at this point, especially in England, but his father was in fire starter. Which was a weird thing to find. And I sort of stumbled on that one. Wow. His dad was in fire starter. Yeah. His dad was in fire starter.

Frank: Who was the better Capote? Toby or Seymore Hoffman?

Scott: I, I don't know.

ank: I'd split decision. He, [:

Scott: I felt it. Did you notice the stock boy? Yes. Chris Owen.

Frank: Okay. So the stock, he was the one he's from like a

Scott: major pain. That was the one that really jumped out of my head.

Uh, can Harley wait second one. The kid steals a gumball machine.

Frank: and was he also keep going, keep going with what else? You were talking American pie. Yes. And Wilder America. That's what I was the

Scott: Sherman aid. See Kelly remembered American pie. I've only seen American pie once. Oh, I fucking did not think it was as funny as everybody else did.

It was on a

Frank: lot around me.

Scott: There were people. I remember when that came out, going to see it. Over and over again, the movie theater and I went and saw it and I was like, I'm not going

Frank: to see that again. Ma'am I had HBO or something or like the house I was at had HBO, you know, living with other people. Yeah.

And that's back when there was one HBO, not like

to go? And I'd be like, no, [:

That's how I felt going to work at a

Frank: cheese sandwich factory. Did you get a LeBaron, Freddy? I only see one LeBaron, Freddy

Scott: and, uh, Carol from walking dead, always losing her fucking kids,

Frank: man. I know. I, so Olympia saw that I was watching it. She was like, oh, I forgot. That's your movie. You were gonna watch. And she was like, I would've watched that with you. And I looked and I was like 47 minutes in, which is almost halfway. Yeah.

And she was like, I'll watch it later. And I told her, you know, boom, the three walking, dead alums. And then I told her what happened later and we made that same connection, always looking for the kids. That was like one of the first things I wrote. Well, and my very last note of all my notes was fucking Carol.

they're driving out, mm-hmm [:

Frank: made it.

Yeah. That's one of those small th because you said you've seen it two or three times before

Scott: this. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to say too much about the ending. I'll still issue with spoiler warning when we

Frank: get, yeah. I I've probably seen a four or five times before this one, but I didn't remember that thing at the end.

Oh, I,

Scott: I never noticed it at all, but I don't think I really knew who she was the first time I saw this or the first couple

Frank: times I saw it the last time I'd seen it. I, I, so the thing is the three walking dead alums. I swear. Last time I watched it, I was like, there's two,

Scott: even in walking dead, I was like, she's gonna die.

And then she becomes a really important character and they killed total the show, Andrea, which awesome. .

Frank: Yeah, fuck Andrea. She hooked up with the

Scott: governor. Uh, she ends up with Rick in the comic books, I believe.

Frank: Yes. I think that's what it was. Yeah. I Olympia

Scott: read him. I didn't the same. I, I mean, I've said it before.

I, I quit reading that shit. I was like, where, where does this end?

ey just drew it out too many [:

Scott: another universe. Well, now that it's over, I'm gonna finish it. Yeah.

Frank: It's I've got a couple, the last season is on Netflix.

Yeah. Oh, we're we're killing it.

Scott: Yeah. But the last season's on Netflix, is it okay? I think I'm pretty sure I'm 80% sure.

Frank: Okay. Yeah. We left off in the whispers that we made it as far as halfway through the whispers.

Scott: See, I didn't even make that right. You don't. Yeah. I made it to, uh, end the end of Negan's saviors.

The, yeah. Him being locked up and then I stopped.

Frank: We weren't the same after Glen and Abraham.

Scott: Yeah. Uh, I am not that kind of person though. Uh, when you kill, uh, really important character and it fucking mentally wrecks me. That's good writing. Well, so, and again, spoilers. One of the things I liked about walking dead was they would take people you really liked out mm-hmm and that was, that was something that I'm I'm for kill people that are important.

like, that's not what we're [:

Whatever floats your

boat,

Frank: whatever

Scott: floats your boat. Also, uh, Francis, uh, string Hagen. She was in misery. The old lady. Was she in misery? She was in misery. She's his agent when she called, yeah.

Frank: I, you know, that's been on something and I knew you

Scott: all that again. Also rest in peace, James con, I don't think I've said anything about it.

Yeah, but that man was one of my favorite actors. And, uh, misery is one of the greatest Stephen King movies. God damn you, Kathy Bates. You're amazing. Mm-hmm fucking to Clayborne also about Schmidt.

Frank: uh,

Scott: American horror story. Kathy Bates, married colors. How many Kathy Bates movies. Can you think of do you want no, no, no.

Okay. So how did you feel about the tentacles, the tentacles and the bugs and stuff. Did you think the special effects had aged?

ell no. I've seen network TV [:

Scott: had it. Yeah. Fucking dystopia had better special effects than do you

Frank: know what vibe I got at times when you would see like the creatures faces Tim Burton, the way that they looked creaky?

Yeah. Maybe creepy, but cookie fish even . Yeah, because it was like a smile almost with the creepy little faces,

Scott: the way they were like me and Kelly laughed a few times where they're like, ha they're like deadites

Frank: they're to be here. And I, I swear. And my, I don't know if I was, I swear that some of 'em had spiral eyes, like spiral pupils.

Yes, for sure. And that's why I was like, this is like a fucking Tim Burton, weird creature

Scott: thing. Again, I feel like if it was in black and white, all that stuff would look great. Yeah. And maybe that's what he was thinking was gonna happen. But,

Frank: but even the color palettes they used for the creatures, like not just the quality

Scott: of it, but then in the, in the book they're pink.

Really? Yes. Okay. Everything is pink and fleshy and freaked me the fuck out when I read

Frank: it. But these were, these were like some purples, some violet, some

Scott: burgundy, very bright colored. Yeah. They were like pink and gray,

Frank: but with the [:

Scott: Yeah. We were at a, like a really bad valley of special effects in 2008. Was that when this movie was, oh, didn't even oh 7 0 7. Yeah. Not a great time. They were at

Frank: that. That was, I guess that might've been a good in between cuz you still needed money at that point for really good

Scott: stuff. Another question I have for you, Frank.

Oh, fill in the gaps for me. Yeah. You come up with, what year was this movie supposed to be taking place in? Cuz nobody used a cell phone. No one even attempted to use a cell phone. Yeah. So

Frank: in my mind it was kind of like mid nineties. See,

Scott: in the book, in, in every Stephen King book, it's either perpetually the fifties to me or it's perpetually the eighties, eighties, seventies.

That's always what I pictured. If

Frank: you looked in the, at the cars in the parking lot. There was like a big mid, late eighties. Well, he was driving that really old. I'd say that, that range Rover. Yeah, the, the land cruiser, I think it was yeah. Land cruiser. That's what it was. Yeah. Um, I would say that's a seventies model.

aybe I know in the book, the [:

Frank: that Mercedes-Benz it was a Mercedes

Scott: reading, some stuff about the movie. Apparently they car was not totaled.

They weren't supposed to fuck it up. A tree had fallen on it. The roof was smashed, but everything else was fine. It was easily restored and they ruined that car. fucked it up. And they were like, this was a huge mistake. it's

Frank: yeah. That's the risk you take. It's a big fuck up. That's the risk you take when you use real shit in a movie.

When they forget to swap out the real one with the prop one sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Except for it's I guess there was no

Scott: prop, did you also notice when the bugs were flying around, when they come into the store everyone's line of sight of them was fucking way off, just way off,

Frank: way off, like yeah. Nobody was even like holding anything on a stick.

Scott: Like they were like swatting and then the bug would be over here at, who made these fucking

e a prop guy with something, [:

Scott: tricks they use.

Yeah. I did know. I don't think they did anything, however, The practical severed tentacle. When they go back into the storage room, once fucking looked amazing. I was gonna say, I was gonna say it was going to the conclusion that if this movie was made in the eighties by John Carpenter, mm-hmm , which it should've been.

I get it. You directed the fog. This would've been a hybrid of your two movies, but I would've love that. It would've been so good. What could have been, what could have been if John Carpenter were not well?

Frank: Yeah, no. And I'm, I'm glad you brought up what it looked like once it was severed. I kind of even liked the sting on

Scott: the chicks neck.

Yeah. That one looked good. We almost thought it was a continuity error. I mist the sting while we were watching. I, I REW a little bit because I was like, wait, she's clutching the wrong side of her neck. Cuz it bites her on this side. Mm-hmm and then stings the other side. I saw it go in this side. I mist the sting the first time when we, we REW and watched it, I was like, oh, it's stung her.

And

d then it flew back and then [:

Scott: What's funny is I finished this book. Mm-hmm ate dinner. Watched the movie yesterday. so I, I fucking mainlined this shit so

Frank: you can take a good break for a while before the next viewing or reading.

I

Scott: probably won't read a book for the, whatever the next movie is.

Frank: I'll watch this movie again in a year

Scott: or two. I do really fucking like this movie. I thought it was good. I thought it was a, a solid fucking solid movie. No,

Frank: I thought it was great. We were kind of on the fly when we selected this movie, but we had mentioned it before in another show.

So we

Scott: were just kind of talking about it, how we both wanted to watch it again. Cause it had been a long time. I like doing those. And especially, I didn't notice so many things that I mist. I feel like since the time I watched this and read the book for the first time and all that stuff, I've read so much more Stephen King since then.

ke a candle lighter for like [:

Scott: sequence. What I did think about the speaking of the tentacles looking bad mm-hmm that the MIS looked kind of bad when it rolled into the parking lot, real CGI mist, but whatever they did to keep it on that side of the door door, because that shot was really like smoke, but it stayed right there.

Yeah. There was like an invisible barrier. I feel like they did some sort of temperature thing, like maybe made the air real cold inside and

Frank: real, and maybe use some dry ice instead of just fog. And that's how you can, it was probably dry ice for sure. and then that way maybe you could combat the flow of the cloud with a different

Scott: temperature.

, the CGI is, is very much of:

Frank: I saw fucking Tim Burton in these bugs. yeah. And this was a movie based off of Stephen King story, and I saw Tim Burton. So, I mean, that's the bugs,

Scott: other weird little Stephen King things.

Frank: I noticed not the worst ever I've ever seen though. Wanna say

es. On car Mrs. Car mm-hmm , [:

Yes, because that's a max headroom. Yes. Plays

Frank: trashcan, man. Well, and that girl, I always talk about the chick from news radio or whatever, who was

Scott: the, she, uh, we said that a little correction. That was just shoot me. Just shoot me.

Frank: Fuck man. My nineties TV sitcoms, which one was Rogan. Rogan was on news radio.

He was on news radio. She

was,

Scott: they fully was on news radio. Uh, David spade was just shoot me. David spade was just shoot me Uhhuh. Uh, Veronica Mars's dad was on just shoot me.

Frank: Oh yeah. And who's like

Scott: the, the guy who owns the

Frank: paper. No, the, oh, she's like the executive chicken. One of those she's in a lot of stuff.

Scott: Oh, uh, the one who's like the aging fashion model and just shoot me. Oh, no, not her, but

Frank: that's a

good

is she? Yeah, I believe she [:

Yeah, I couldn't. Yeah, she's in

Frank: a lot of stuff too. The only reference I can think of is an office one. And so I know you won't get that, but she was Robert California's wife in the office. I think she was in one of those two sit. I'll have to check on that later. Yeah. There

Scott: were like very, uh, I feel like he really gave a fuck about this.

Apparently he acquired this property and Steven King trusted him with it after he did the green mile. I'm tired boss. Yeah. He gave him something scary. He did some cool shit. Another weird thing that I noticed he doesn't do it in the book. But in the movie, he calls him big bill, stuttering Bill's nickname.

And it, he calls his kid big bill, but in the book he calls him honey, O bunch of times, which I thought was like, eh,

Frank: kind of weird. Oh, what'd you think? I mean, I know that this was the perfect setting, but what did you think about the opportunities for product placement in this film? It was in a grocery

Scott: store.

oduct placement in the audio [:

Frank: it's weird. Okay. So this one was, uh Coca-Cola but I don't know if you remember this from the movie.

There's a scene where people are like scrambling and falling and somebody's like holding a fucking frosted flakes box. label out against the outside.

Scott: Notice that the basket, you always catch product placement before I do.

Frank: I didn't think about it much until a few years ago. And then I, I really dug into it in certain movies.

I did

Scott: notice it a lot in Congo, but no, and we touched

Frank: on that. Yeah. Yeah. But no, this frosted flakes box was being pushed against the side of the basket to keep the face out. But then I noticed that they couldn't get Cheerios. It was some off brand for Cheerios on a shelf at one point. Interesting. But then Coca-Cola was like, bam, at one point when they were on the floor.

And I mean, even like tilt it out. like in a

wouldn't you have a bunch of [:

Frank: grocery, there are some people making a nice side business off of props though.

I've seen that lately, some behind the scenes on some of those guys coming up, they're just making labels for beer bottles and shit.

Scott: Like, like you were saying crash down wasn't in, uh, in the book, the book. Yeah, he was, he was there to explain the Arrowhead project thing. That was, was the fill a gap for

Frank: the, well, yeah, for the, that, that

Scott: version, the first third of the book.

Being like him cleaning up trees on his property and probably

Frank: dealing

Scott: with Norton a little bit more, a little bit more N and you feel a little worse for Norton in the book. Mm he's. He's a fucking Dick in the movie, which is fine. As far as all of the adaptation things he did for this made total sense to me, you cannot beat for beat, make everything exactly like the source material, especially with a, a first person narrative like this.

Frank: Well, yeah, and I mean, really, I didn't have anything else big. I just, and I, you know, no spoilers, we won't get too much into it, but this is one of the most ruthless endings are

on't want the end spoiled, I [:

He is writing this down and he leaves it in a restaurant. And that's what you're reading. Mm-hmm but he says there's a little hope we're gonna keep driving. Worse comes to worse in the book. There's four people in the car, not five mm-hmm . So we have three bullet, four people. I don't know what to do with that, but that's something.

Then he leaves the journal in the restaurant and it ends nice. And the audio book or the audio performance ends with, uh, you hear a little on the radio Hartford, and then that's after the big Levi Leviathan thing has gone over there. So they have, they have like a, a guiding light. Yeah. They there's a little bit of hope.

fe from fucking Stephen King [:

He might kill the kids.

Frank: well, so in this movie there was some kid killing well, dead kids. Yeah, for sure. In the book where they're dead kids.

Scott: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, not like this at the end, blasts everyone in the car. Yeah. Which is crazy. But apparently Stephen King thought that was amazing.

Frank: No, the first time I watched this movie, I hadn't read the book.

I hadn't read the, I hadn't listened to the audio. the audio performance. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I mean, it was on the shelf at Hollywood, so I took it home. I watched it. I had no idea. I was liking the movie. I don't think I was tearing into the special effects as much. Cuz you know, it was like, oh 7 0 8. When I watched it, I was, it was fine.

Yeah. It was late. I was probably baked. Um you know, it was good, but then you come across this fuck up ending. I couldn't fucking believe what I was seeing. I

special effects because no, [:

Frank: this like probably pushed it from a six to a 7.1 with the that's why the people rating it gave

Scott: it what they did.

Yeah. Because no matter what you thought about the movie, this ending was get to fuck brutal. Fucking ending is really hard to be like, because it, Kelly was a little mad. For not telling you. No, it's just a lot of the time. Sometimes she'll be like, well, that was real fucking uplifting. And I'm like, do you married me?

are you, are you aware of who I am? Uh, because uplifting is not some shit I want to, you know, yeah, no, I don't go for uplifting. Stephen King was he wanted to put him in the movie. Mm-hmm because Stephen King's in so many of the, so many movies and his cameos are great. He was supposed to play the biker, the one that like went out and got it.

Yeah. He that's how we wanted him. And instead

Frank: they got like a Bootle fucking,

y. No way. That is the best. [:

Frank: that's what I was gonna, it grows on you. Touch meteors grows like don't touch meteors.

You get the Moss. Well, that is only line when he, when he tries and then all of a sudden like, well, yeah, man, you put it in your mouth. It's the

Scott: only line in that bit too. Is he? He just goes, meteor your shit.

Frank: well, I love that final scene when he is in the chair and it's just all, and we're just looking back and forth because it's, doesn't it do that pan? Yeah. Like, like the whole place of the whole place is kind fun. And then you see the grass, like moving the chair. Oh my God. It's so good. That's why it was in my watch now on fucking Amazon.

I don't know if it's still there, but, um, yeah, I thought the biker they got was Bootle Ron

Scott: Pearlman. It was Bootle Ron Pearlman. That's why,

Frank: when you said I was like, that's what I was just about to say was I think the biker was Bootle Ron Pearlman. Yeah. Ron Pearlman could have been the biker. Ron

Scott: Pearlman, Hellboy Hellboy comic book, friends with Thomas Jane.

Bit more than a Stephen King cameo, little.

Frank: Oh, wasn't maximum overdrive. He was at the ATM. Was he

Scott: ATM guy? Yes, he [:

Nuh yeah.

Frank: well, I mean the whole soundtrack is

Scott: ACDC. That's why it's amazing. Yeah. I, why was the hop gobbling on the front of that truck? I realize this, this episode is more about Stevie king than it is about the mist, but, but if you wanna do more Stephen King movies, I'm down. anytime,

Frank: you know, I watched maximum over, over recently and that the, uh, the score that plays right before some shit happens.

Yeah. , it's so good. It's so loud. like, no matter what your VO it's like a fucking commercial. If you're watching regular TV,

Scott: I also, uh, in this movie I noticed a Willam scream. You know, the, the scream that the sound guys like to jam in there, the, the one that's in everything in the parking lot when they're making a run for the car, I think it might be the biker.

he's the close line guy that [:

Frank: everything. I love it. It's in everything. It was a good movie.

Scott: It was a fantastic Stephen King movie. Good movie.

Frank: Good movie. For sure. I didn't realize people loved it enough to give it a 7.1 on

Scott: IMDB.

I like this top 10 Netflix thing. Cause I figure like this was, this started happening around the beginning of the pandemic.

Frank: They wouldn't have listened to us. It wouldn't have made it to top 10. Um, you know, I, they can, they're gonna watch it. Yeah. They can give us credit at any point. Now that we talked about it and then it was in the top 10 before we recorded it, but we'd already talked about it.

So that was us. Um,

Scott: no, um, you kinda get to see that people aren't as what Hollywood thinks about things, you know, or what you would think, like movie executives. Would feel about something. Yeah, but I mean, cool world is a movie. So , who knows what those people are thinking kind of good movie too. A while

t in my list and it just sat [:

Scott: I've tried to rewatch it a couple times. It is. It is. So it's a weird movie man, same team that did, who framed Roger rabbit, which I've rewatched who framed Roger rabbit in the last like five years. I saw it a while back. That shit is dark. Yeah. That movie's fucking dark, man. Christopher Lloyd is scary.

what are we watch

Frank: next time? I was, uh, that's actually what I was just looking up because we

Scott: talked about it. Oh, one more weird little fun fact. The video game half life was inspired by the MIS, which makes fucking perfect sense. Wow.

Frank: Isn't that crazy? Yeah, no, no, that's good. Oh, here we go. Here we go. This is gonna next week.

We'll be watching paradise Hills. I saw Emma Roberts in it. And I was like, I like some

Scott: Emma Roberts. I do. I think she makes good decisions. I does love scream, Queens scream cream

Frank: scream, scream. Queens was excellent. God, it was so good. I

than I liked American horror [:

Oh. And I didn't like every

Frank: season it was story. They, I didn't finish it. I didn't finish scream Queens.

Scott: Oh really? No. Oh, you should. But I loved it. It's good. It was

Frank: so good. Yeah. What was that guy's name? The real like .

Scott: Oh, I don't fucking remember, but he was so good. I would rewatch scream Queens

Frank: gladly. I'm a Roberts man.

I'm ready for this. It it's just, it caught my eye. Uber.

Scott: What is this movie about? I, it it's caught my eye. I put it on my thing, but I didn't, uh, read what it was about. I literally was like, that looks weird. I'll do that. That's the same with that movie. The princess on Hulu, I'm gonna

Frank: watch that. This is a very long description.

Now, basically girls are coming up in this school, I believe is this sci-fi

Scott: movie. Sci-fi we don't have to do a full rundown. Let's find out. Yeah.

was the little indie guy [:

Scott: power version should cover this movie.

Looks like it could either be like cool Stepford wives, kind of vibe, uh, bright or. Sucker punch. Yeah. I'm glad we're doing another Netflix movie. I'm stoked about that. Yeah.

Frank: I it's, it's been, it's been sticking out on Netflix. It was there right before vacation and I believe, and it was there right when I got back right at the top of the list, I knew that we hadn't picked anything.

And I'm like, this looks like one

Scott: people I wonder about. Yeah. I, I feel like that that's one that you would hover over and be like, eh, I don't know. And then move on. Yeah, but paradise

Frank: Hills. I'm stoked. Yeah. We'll see

Scott: how it goes. I feel like I have a, a nice full plate

now. And uh, I mean, this was:

I, Emma Roberts was born February 10th, 1991.

Scott: Sorry. That was a long time ago. I feel like you just said that, like, uh, my goodness. Isn't she young yeah.

as in my goodness, but just [:

Scott: over 30, just over 30 . And we're not that much older

Frank: than her. Not much, but there's a lot, you know, I she's less than a month younger than Olympia.

Scott: Cradle robber. .

Frank: Thanks everyone for joining us for the last video store clerks podcast, be sure to leave a rating and subscribe. You can find us on Twitter at last clerks, Instagram at the last video store clerks. And you can findScott@dispatchesfromthepit.com.

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About the Podcast

The Last Video Store Clerks
With Frank and Scott
The Last Video Store Clerks try to figure out what a good movie even is in the age of streaming. Are there still Cult Classics with no shelf to put them on? Something is missing. Former video store clerks Frank Roll and Scott Moran aim to find it. Or at least, comedy and a silver lining. What is a good movie anyway?

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Scott Moran

Former video store clerk, current sci-fi horror writer. Our copywriter, podcast editor, audio engineer, and resident bad good movie expert.