Episode 17

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9th Aug 2022

Paradise Hills

There are good bad movies, but you've gotta watch a lot of bad bad movies to find em. This week we watched Paradise Hills (2019) currently streaming on Netflix. You probably hovered over it for a few seconds before watching something else. But not us!

Plus: Frank saw Nope, and Scott watched The Gray Man (No Spoilers for either)

Paradise Hills was directed by Alice Waddington and stars Emma Roberts, Mila Jovovich, Awkwafina, Eiza Gonzalez, and Danielle Macdonald.

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Paradise Hills

Scott: [:

Frank: of blockbuster Hollywood and the independent

Scott: video store are over. But the days of searching the shelves for hidden gems and overlooked cult classics is never ending. Join us while

Frank: we drown in a sea of streaming options and ask the question, what the hell is

Scott: a good movie.

Anyway, I'm Frank

Frank: I'm Scott. And where are the last video store clerks?

Scott: why is that?

Frank: Do I seem like I may be on the spectrum to you sometimes, sometimes I wonder I'm wondering, like, maybe it wasn't necessarily just like an ADHD undiagnosed thing growing up if like maybe there, you know,

Scott: you're, you're particular in a way that is, that is, uh, indicative of people I've been friends with that are definitely on the spectrum.

ally don't like it that way. [:

I was like getting ready for this. I was right in their outline and stuff like that. And the air, the, the power just went off for just a second. And then slowly over the next hour, I was like, guys, it's really fucking hot in here. Mm-hmm . And uh, I realized that the air conditioner was set to 74 and it was 78 degrees in the house.

So had the

Frank: power come back on at

Scott: that point, it literally like, it was like just enough to turn my monitor off. Other than that, like, I wasn't even sure it happened. The internet went out for, you know, so

Frank: when a movie, this would've been

Scott: a blip, it was a, it was a little power surge. It was a blip because don't live in Texas.

It sucks here. Like they can't keep the fucking lights on when it's hot. Like let you know, we were so mad about the, the freeze, but, uh, really it's, uh, I'm more worried about the power

s with this ERCOT situation, [:

It's not necessarily just cuz it's Texas off the grid. This is just the start of places. Can't handle extreme heat like this. We're not built

Scott: for it. Yeah, but we should be here by now. We should be here by now. Like if anything that you should be able to handle, it's the extreme fucking heat. I agree.

Frank: 100%.

But yeah.

Scott: Unfortunately like I'll forgive you not being able to handle the freeze and being like, don't drive your car. There's an inch of snow on the ground. But like, , there's like, if you can't get us through the fucking summer, it's your only God job. Your only job is to keep the fucking air conditioning on while it's 105, and you've had practice , you know?

kid, but we didn't like have [:

And, uh, according to the city, Austin power didn't go out today. it was enough to kill my air conditioner. So I go outside, open the power box, a giant Hornet. Falls out of the power box, hits the ground. I turn, take off running each shit on the fucking ground. fucking like scrape my knee, scrape my arm. I have a scratch right here.

Uh, there's dirt in my underwear. There was, I took a shower, but then I dressed up like full space suit, like winter regalia scarf around my head went outside, killed all the fucking Hornets. Uh, yeah, I would just like to say I ate shit and then got up, ate shit again. and got up and kept running. But both times I ate shit.

going out there not changing [:

Frank: battery.

Scott: I mean, I, I got so overheated today, I'm wearing shorts right now. Mm-hmm , which is something I never fucking do.

That's

Frank: what it was when you opened the door. Oh, you were

Scott: like, he looks different. I was, his beard must be thicker but that was the other thing was I was like, I'm shaving this beard off right now. Only my beard is sweating.

Frank: Well. Yeah. And when you shave the beard, are you gonna leave the mustache for a

Scott: couple days?

I'm gonna leave the mustache long enough to take a picture of it and send it to my sister to freak her out. how much I look like my father. Oh goodness. yeah, no, no, no. Kelly will not tolerate just the mustache for a

Frank: day. I did it for that Christmas card and I rocked it for longer than I meant

Scott: to. We are of a generation where all of our fathers had mustaches.

So if you're married to someone near your age, eh, you're gonna look a little like their dad. I am gonna have to combat this. Conta door point that is happening. I'm gonna start looking like the counter money, Christo, like you work at a micro

Frank: brewery

: downtown. Yeah. Or I juggle[:

Frank: you know, you can tell me the different types of trolls that patrol the forest at night. I

Scott: could do that anyway.

but you saw. I

Frank: saw no. And it's summer in Texas. And you know, if somebody's using power it's movie theaters and AC . Yeah, it was, it was cold

Scott: in the movie theater. Oh, I still in the middle of summer here, I will bring a fucking hoodie to every movie. It was Olympia

Frank: does. Yeah. Minimum fuzzy socks, flannel shirt.

She does fuzzy socks used to bring a blanket sometimes, but I wonder the chairs that this particular place, and I won't say their name , they're just falling apart. I walked in and it looked like a nightmare sequence from a Stephen King movie or something. It's the fake leather. Yeah. And the thing is that's worn off.

So it's just cloth where there's not the fake

e was like one up north that [:

But you went and shimmy in it. Nobody I've never did it. You never did it. No, I wanted

Frank: to. No. Once you said that, I'm pretty sure that cinema and Flickerville did.

Scott: I was curious. Yeah. I never went though. I think it was a cinema thing. Mm-hmm so

Frank: weird. Yeah. But no, we got out. Nope. It was, it was great. It was great.

And one of the things that I read before I went in was a lot of the people were saying not one person is right with their fan theory. And so I was curious cuz it had already been out for a day. Yeah. So I'd gotten to see reviews after a full day.

Scott: You just wanted to see if the theory was right beforehand.

Frank: No, no, no. I was just reading like, you know about the release of it. We've been going on opening day when we've been pushing for things lately. Yeah. Jurassic park was opening day. I wasn't all about top gun Maverick opening day, but it was close enough. This was the day after opening day. And just the one thing that stuck out was all these people saying the none of the fan theories were correct.

eing very careful with this. [:

Scott: Yeah. He does make really. He's a fantastic fucking

Frank: writer, the dialogue. And I will say one thing. This is what caught me off guard.

I felt a little bit of M night in this, which confuses me because Jordan Peel's always had his own style in a way with these other movies.

Scott: I think M night has come closer to Jordan. Peel's aggressiveness.

Frank: There's some things in this movie where I felt like I was watching an M night film and I'm like, Jordan peel,

Scott: you, do you, well, what do you, what do you mean by it?

Like what era of M night's Shalon? Because I don't think that they're all the same. It's like, I think we have like signs, village era.

Frank: Oh, I'm a, I don't wanna

Scott: spoil this for people. Don't but I mean, I like, uh, it's really hard to put old kind of tone. No. Or do you mean like, uh,

Frank: you know, the fantasy aspect of the M night films?

ng together of things. Yeah. [:

Scott: in the last air bender. No, don't

Frank: pick the worst M night. Okay. Let's say lady in the water. Okay. Lady in the water. You, and, and this is this, so you're

Scott: saying nothing to that. No, that's not the worst M night.

Frank: lady in the, water's not the worst fucking hate it.

I finally saw Airbender the cartoon. Right. I wasn't, I didn't ever watched it

Scott: back in the day. I didn't really watch the cartoon either. Uh, I've seen a little bit of it here, there. So Amazon I've

Frank: seen a lot of it. Right. Because you know, Olympia watches it. Okay. So I've watched almost the whole thing. I get it.

I know the characters and everything. Then the movie

Scott: when I looked like dime store dragon ballsy to me. it was horrible.

Frank: Yeah. So, sorry. I'm not, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I love everything. I do. I like I will do the happening.

Scott: I like the happening for

Frank: weird reason. A lot of people hate the happening is right there with lady in the water for a lot of people, I would say

that the happening is one of [:

If

Frank: anybody wants to think I have bad taste after this, I really like the lady in the water.

Scott: there are things I like about lady in the water, but see on a whole, I would say it is the story is just not that good. it's

Frank: not very good. I'm fine with it. When I first I saw

Scott: it, Freddie Rodriguez with the one arm, the one arm

Frank: well, but see, you've got this cast of characters.

It's almost corny, you know, there's a big corny touch to it. Nope. Great movie. If you like Jordan peel, flick just, there was, the buildup was amazing for me. It almost lost me at the end. No shit. Yeah. And I've been waiting for this for over a year and I love his stuff. It almost lost me at the. After just how it moved the entire, but then didn't entire time.

No, I have to still support it. It's it was great. Just the way that I felt the entire movie. Cuz it was good. It was good. Yeah. It was weird. You're like what the fuck? yeah, it's a good one. Yeah. Trying

Scott: not to say anything. The, the ride that us took me on is gonna be really hard to top to

Frank: me. [:

Nope. For me both.

Scott: Yeah. I mean that's bound to happen, but who knows? Maybe I'll like it because it's

Frank: close to, for sure us is at the top. Nope might be it's right there, but I think I'm still gonna put, get out over

Scott: note. I mean, I haven't seen it, but like, like that looks even weirder and that's what I

Frank: want you ask yourself, but what is

Scott: it though?

There is a weird line. You, you step over that sometimes. And when we get to talking about paradise Hills, that's the movie we did this time Hills, uh, there were some weird lines that I thought got crossed.

Frank: Yeah. Um, I mean, did you watch, or maybe not? Did you watch anything this week? Interesting. I watched

Scott: the gray man was probably the, the gray man.

Gosling, Ryan Gosling, Chris [:

Frank: I don't know if I know her.

Scott: I like her. She was in it, bad wig, bad wig. but I liked it. You got what? You, you got what you signed up for. It's just an action movie and it's a pretty goddamn good action movie. The story is not

Frank: groundbreaking. Okay. Speaking of bad wigs, I finished the boys season three, Mave, iron Maven, her hair.

That's that's an awful wig.

Scott: I feel so bad for her, you know, and, uh, having finished the boys this season, uh, I'm gonna say, uh, I like peacemaker more than the boys. Oh, you haven't seen peacemaker this I've you can't, you can't can be offended by that. I'm it? Peacemaker has heart and character story that James gun delivers with guardians, like galaxy that the boys doesn't have.

acter except for Frenchie of [:

Frank: like Frenchy, but that's you. Of course, she would like French. What does he called? You? Don't like Frenchy, what does he call him? And then when it coked out Euro trash I

Scott: love Frenchie. Frenchie is my favorite character.

It it's the dynamic of the two. Yeah. The you, when they're like at the zoo in the beginning, fucking love it. And she's so excited.

Frank: Uh, no, it was good though. So, uh, I'll give peacemaker a try at some point. I really will, because I asked you how you felt about the new newer suicide squad. I liked it a lot. Yeah. I need to watch that one again is what I need to do. I saw the will Smith one. I don't know how many times, just because I think that's why I had HBO.

And so it was on, so I would put on HBO. That was on

Scott: piece of shit. it's a piece of. It's the

Frank: worst. The thing that sticks out the most is how Jared LTO was trying to reprise the role.

eel like, uh, he was Alba is [:

And I feel like, you know, I am a big address. I mean, Linda, I fucking love

Frank: that guy. He's awesome. What's his name?

Scott: oh my God. I don't know why. I can't think of it right now. I, well,

Frank: here's the thing. I didn't watch a altered carbon. You know, he was, he did, I loved altered carbon. I didn't

Scott: finish it a little too colorful.

Frank: little too. It was too bright. It was like, I was in cyber punk, but I wasn't in cyber punk.

Scott: Yeah. Yes, let's do the trailers very quickly. So the trailers you saw, I was beginning a note. He sent me all of them. Did you dislike any of them? I don't think that that Exorcist Mo what's the Exorcist pray for the devil.

Pray for the devil. I don't think it looks scary. You don't think it'll be scary? No, I think it'll be interesting. Like I'll watch it for sure. Uh, I don't think it's gonna freak me out any of the

Frank: big budget ones that are supposed to be scary. Now I want to watch to see if some, because malignant

Scott: malignant threw me for a fucking loop.

ou haven't watched malignant [:

Scott: malignant bananas.

Frank: And it's something that I haven't seen that no, it was

Scott: something new. I seen close to that. Well, I feel like that, uh, was it James Wayne or James won the director?

Possibly the, the guy he directed conjuring mm-hmm uh, And insidious and all that stuff. I felt like he was a one trick pony and he really fucking threw me for a loop.

Frank: Yeah. Pray for the devil. I'm it's got

Scott: potential. It looks like

Frank: all out. Yeah. Uh, next was, uh, don't worry, darling.

Scott: That looks amazing. Even though when that trailer started, I was like Harry styles.

don't fucking like Harry

Frank: stocks. No, I think out of those first four, that's probably the most quality. I think that one will be, you know, good all

Scott: around. Uh, I was very impressed by the trailer. Uh, Olivia wild directed that movie. See, I didn't even notice that. Yeah, she's in it and that's awesome. Uh, sub character directed it.

I don't know if she wrote it or not, but, uh, I like Florence pew, like her a lot.

Frank: I can't hear pew without want to go. Pew, pew, pew,

pew, pew. Sorry, I like it. [:

Frank: was body's bodies

Scott: bodies. That looks fucking great. that looks like my kind of movie that is, uh, and I like Pete Davidson.

He seems so much like somebody I would've been friends with. If we had grown up together

Frank: in that female lead she's in the Bo at. You were saying?

Scott: Yeah. She's that's her the newer bore app. The newer Bo app. Yeah. She's the, the one with the Giuliani scene. and she's in the bubble. She's great. I

Frank: like her a lot.

I didn't realize that was her when I watched that trailer, but no, that's awesome. You know, what is that? It's a party movie. They play a game. Shit goes down.

Scott: What do you call? Yeah, it got me spring breakers. Excited. Yeah. Not everybody likes spring breakers, but I really do I like harmony cor uh, Halloween ends.

I mean, that's what I was

Frank: expecting. I didn't know that the newer run with Jamie Lee Curtis was gonna be a trilogy of the, I think it's cool. It's cool.

Scott: I, you know, I mean, uh, like I said, you haven't seen it and we'll, we'll probably do it around Halloween, but Halloween three is not a fucking Michael's Meers movie.

right. We talked about that [:

Scott: Yeah. Uh, a lot of, uh, questionable sexual assault happens in that movie movie. no, that's a very

Frank: good point. We should have some fun on Halloween. Do some real Halloween shit.

Scott: Let's do, uh, like a whole month. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go hard. Yeah, let's go really hard.

Frank: Yeah. Cause, uh, yeah, maybe we can do one of those with the stories, you know, like a multiple thing, like tales from the dark side or something. Yeah. Well

Scott: I, every year I show, I, I subscribe to shutter every year dancing. That's my ritual. Wait, just during Halloween, October for October, I subscribe to shutter E every now and then I do it for something.

I did it for Nosferatu. Uh, I did it for, uh, the Joe Hill show, not the old movie. I've never done it. I've

Frank: never tried it, not even for a trial. And I see so much shit on there that I, I would, I would dip into it. Oh, Frank, I would dip a

Scott: lot. Did you ever see the creepy pasta TV show? No, that was on sci-fi channel.

No, it was fucking great. Nope. It far superior to American horror story. Mm.

I've seen a couple episodes. [:

Scott: too there with her. It's fine. Yeah. This was another, like, it's an anthology by season sort of thing. Cool. But the first one with was, uh, about this like little kid made out of teeth.

It was fucked up, man. little kid. I've been trying to get people to watch it for so long. It's just only on shutter. Yeah. But man, it fucking breaks me out. Kids totally made out

Frank: teeth. Uh, by the way, you wanna see a weird kid movie, uh, watch lamb.

Scott: I know I that's on the list. Lamb. It it's it's way on the list.

Anybody out there once watched something weird. The problem is I've been playing. I, I bought two video games at once, which is a terrible thing to do fuck, but so I've been going back and forth. I've been playing the quarry, not disappointed, loving it. Nice. Loving it. I like making decisions and this one, there are no right ones, you know, like, I'm trying to keep everyone alive.

Yeah. But that's about it. very cool. No, I I've had keeping everyone alive bite me in the ass, heavy rain. I kept everyone alive. And one of them was the fucking murderer.

Frank: it was on sale. [:

Scott: now. And I got ghost wire, Tokyo as well.

And, but both horror games. So, I mean, I like the trailer for that.

Frank: You sent

Scott: me the trailer for that. Yeah, the combat's cool. Yeah, it looked, it looked good. Slipped into a video game podcast.

Frank: Um, last was Oppenheimer, uh,

Scott: the new Christopher Nolan man. Your trailer was lacking. It was a teaser. All that I was excited about was seeing Christopher Nolan's name.

cause I love him. I think he's great. But uh, but then the cast. Yeah. At the same time I'm yeah, the cast looks great. I'm not as excited about. Biopics biopics. Biopics.

Frank: Yeah. When you said biopics I thought, did you go to

Scott: the dermatologist? No, I just wanted to say it every way that I've heard it said I, I would call it a biopic.

Is that a skin thing? And I think it's really pretentious when someone calls it a biopic. Do people do that? Uh,

h. Go fucking slap yourself. [:

Scott: Yeah. But I feel like we have a lot to talk about with this movie. So let's, let's get to paradise Hills paradise, fucking Hills, which eerily similar apparently to a movie you watched called level 16, right?

Frank: So, yes. And if you're not familiar with our style, generally I watch it the night before. Are you back on that schedule? I did with this one. Okay. It just works better for me. It's fresh in my mind. Before

Scott: we record, I watched it last night. Uh, I thought about watching it early. I'm glad I didn't try to watch this one twice.

Mm-hmm well, I

Frank: had some family in, from out of town and then the little one didn't want to go to sleep. So I got a later start than usual and I'm on day three of no caffeine. So yesterday was day two little grumpy, little extra tired. By the time I got to watch the damn movie, I had seen level 16. I mentioned this during the missed episode Uhhuh that's part of what drew me to this was I thought these would be in the same realm and I wanted to see where it would go.

ould be similar as I watched [:

Scott: story of story. Lot idea, lots of other movies. Exactly.

Frank: It's not an original idea whatsoever, but that doesn't mean that you can't do something amazing with it.

Yeah. That doesn't mean you can't. And as I. The best way that I can put it is Jesus. I was on the fence about level 16. Let's just say after I watch this, I like level 16

Scott: oh, okay. All right.

Frank: If you catch my drift,

Scott: we, we will have the, the, is this a good movie conversation at the end, even though I, I think I might know the answer so give us, give us a summary.

Frank: Oh, snap. I'm gonna do it. UMMA, not AMA the, the new horror movie on Netflix. That's

Scott: AMA AMA, AMA

r's company. And by took, I, [:

It was, it was a raw deal. She's in love with a man named Marcus. We'll get to Marcus. Yeah, she, uh, she wakes up in a resort like, and cartoonishly Allison Wonderland island facility called paradise Hills. It's run by a woman called the Duchess, played by milah Jovi. Very good. Yeah. Um, the DUS it's fucking Liu.

Multipath the Duchess informs her that she has been sent there by her mother for treatment and preparation for her petrol UMMA allies herself with three other girls on the island for treatment for varying low class behaviors frowned on by their upper class parents. There's Armana there's you and there's Chloe

Scott: Amar.

Amarna I had a lot

Frank: of trouble with this one. When I made my notes, I looked it up cuz I couldn't understand what they were saying in the movie. Yeah. So yeah. Amarna you and Chloe Chloe's is just an odd one. You know, that country thing going on. Yeah. Caught me off guard with the whole upper lower thing.

s not what it seems. They're [:

Paradise Hills is directed by Alice Waddington and written by Waddington nacho Vigeland and Brian Del

Scott: and nacho Vigo. I'm a big fan. He wrote and directed time crimes. Have you seen time crimes? It's been a while. Fucking love that movie. I feel like that's a good colossal.

Frank: Oh, Ann Hathaway. Mm-hmm

Scott: nice.

Yeah. He's a great fun director. A really fun guy. That could be like

Frank: a Shakira song. Nacho big along dope. He's funny.

Scott: I, I like that guy. He's got a, he that's lighthearted. I wish I could do a

Frank: Shak secure impression shark.

ng unnecessary. Unnecessary. [:

can be trusted with that. Shit will never be fucking flying cars. So that is why they don't appear in movies anymore. Oh, I love the fifth element, but uh, yeah. There's never gonna be flying cars. Yeah. Unless they're all self-driving, we're never gonna get our shit down. Well, Hey, have

Frank: you seen these guys flying around on these little drum platforms?

Scott: Did you know that they make, uh, helicopter? Go-karts like, go-karts that just turn into an, they have a helicopter thing. Yeah. Uh, that shouldn't be available. Well, no,

Frank: now they've got this shit. I think the military has this one or somebody, but it's the jet packet looks like a cheap ass iron man. They've got thrusters on the hand.

Things they fly across. Um, a lot of the tests I've seen on video, they fly ship to ship in the ocean. Oh, it's that? One's really cool. But then a bunch

Scott: of people are doing, it's not one of the ones that sucks the water up and

wearing it. I was wanted to [:

But then there's these motherfuckers on drone platforms. And I finally saw somebody eat shit. He was trying to do something cool. And it clipped a blade. And all that it took was that one blade breaking. The whole thing went down. Luckily he wasn't that high up, but I've seen these guys doing it in New York and shit.

If they're not in a field they're in times square, like y'all are fucking right. Yeah. But if

Scott: you can't be trusted with a single jet pack, the average person should not be driving a flight, the

Frank: motherfucker people out there, they can't drive for shit with wheels. You wanna put 'em in the air.

Scott: Yeah. Yeah.

Imagine that John QK air traffic controller. How stressed out that motherfucker's gonna be

Frank: man pushing tin. fucking

Scott: love that movie. I was the, the purpose of a cold open, like that in a movie should be to establish a ticking clock. And it didn't do that. No, because there nothing was at stake in the opening other than you being like, okay, well, what the fuck was that?

ry, you knew there was gonna [:

Scott: also it was one of not two. But almost three Disney asked musical numbers that had no fucking place in this movie, Fantasia. They were so

Frank: Disney. I felt lots of color, lots of

Scott: flowers. The set design was great.

I, I will give 'em that the set design, the costume design, all that stuff was great. Yeah. I made a note. Is

Frank: this movie for fashion designers? I felt like there was a lot of high fashion in there. You know, if you're a fan of project runway, hello designers.

Scott: well, what I really felt was that this movie was all about that and.

They had a lot of ideas about what they were

Frank: trying to make, but it, the transitions weren't always so smooth. The

Scott: story was tightly wrapped around the set design. And so some of the plot points were kind of

Frank: weak and at times I feel possibly they didn't have the budget to achieve their goal for the set design.

onger you look at it, you're [:

Scott: balloons? I will also say with the right lighting on it. Yeah. I will also say that, uh, the camera work was not good. They did not do well with handling multicharacter

Frank: scenes.

Several areas fell flat several too

Scott: pretty. This was her first feature film, and I shot a little too high as far as. I can see, she didn't do a bad job. Cinematographer did, uh, the set design was fantastic. It looked really good. It

Frank: was very pretty parts of the story I felt were missing. The mark

Scott: three screenwriters was a lot if you have three screenwriters, why'd you turn in a rough draft.

Like if I felt a little bit like this was a rough draft of a movie yeah, but more we'll get to more that towards the, the, when she wakes up in that room. With a grass mm-hmm and all that. I thought that looked awesome. That part was cool. Uh, I thought her wearing those dirty Chuck Taylors was very character humanizing to me cause she had problem

Frank: placing the time.

What year was this supposed to be? I have no idea. The not too

future. Yeah. I don't know. [:

Okay. You

Frank: think of some of those scenes from hunger games, you know, they're making their entrance, they're on the chariots, huge Coliseum, like

Scott: structures, all of that was great with and Stanley too. She's insane teeth and all that

Frank: stuff, you know, but that look, I feel like that look is what they may have been trying to achieve to some degree in this

Scott: agreed, but hunger games.

Very concisely established its world and the hierarchy of society, the different districts who did, and, and they did it with T and made it an

Frank: allegory in this story. There were uppers and there were lowers, I

Scott: guess I did it. Did you even really like really get the details of that?

a class system, but very two [:

Oh,

for

Scott: sure. Two levels upper lower. Yeah. That's uh, not diverse enough. Lazy. That's lazy,

Frank: right? It's yeah. I mean, cuz we get it. I mean like, um, uppers and, and I've, I don't think I've ever heard them called just uppers are lowers in a film where it, you know yeah. That's part of what you're supposed to be understanding as the storyline

Scott: moves on a little loose, a little loose Aqua.

Played you in the movie. I like her voice very much.

Frank: There were parts. Uh, so you know, I just mentioned power Rangers last year. Yeah. What's her name? I forget the crazy one. Yeah. She's like the main villain in the, in the old TV series. Oh, I forget her name, but her voice sounded like

Scott: that to me. Oh, in power Rangers?

Yeah. In power Rangers. Yeah. the one that lives on the moon. Yeah. Yeah. That's who you

Frank: sounded like to me in her, you know, when she first started

Scott: talking, I like her. I like Aquafina's voice. It's very raspy. And, uh, Natasha Leon a little low. Yeah. It's got a low pitch as well. Yeah, I dig it. I like it, but that was another, the dialogue was real.

idn't know what it was gonna [:

Frank: Hey, she made a career off those resident

Scott: evils. Yeah, she fucking did. Ultraviolet was terrible.

Frank: Congrats to her.

Scott: I never saw ultraviolet. I, I told someone it was right. And then they watched it and then they didn't trust me to ever afterwards. And I was like, I mean, it's a cartoon, basically. You should

Frank: have told him. No, no. Gimme a second chance. Watch eon flux with Starly Theron.

Scott: It was pretty much the same. Same kind of

Frank: movie.

I watched parts of that one. Oh, that

Scott: one was less

Frank: bad. I used to watch it on

Scott: MTV when I was young, though, the action sequences in Elon flux were better.

Frank: well, you told me about what happened there. And then I saw

Scott: what happened with the, yeah, but I thought when, uh, Mila Jovi got mad in this mm-hmm, still very scary.

She can get intense. And I, I dug

Frank: that, but, and still beautiful. But you can tell she's a little bit older now. So something about that age with the

Yeah. It was scary. It was a [:

Frank: like that did great.

Scott: She did great. It was kind of a waste of some of the people in it. Like they, they could have been a little bit more, uh, Emma Roberts was fine.

I also think a lot of other people could have played this and it would've the same movie. It, it helped the movie

Frank: that she was

Scott: in it. Yeah. But a lot of other people could have definitely played this part and it would've been pretty much the same. It did draw us to the movie. Yes. Because I, I generally thought she made good decisions and I'm sure this was.

A fine read as far as a script goes, which

Frank: is what we do. I saw the cover and I thought,

Scott: Hmm. Yeah. I mean, I, I didn't turn my nose up when you suggested it at all. And I went into it wanting to like this movie a lot as SU

Frank: the first time I saw it and read it, I

Scott: put it in my list. But from a story perspective, I started picking it apart immediately.

She's there for treatment from her mother, you know? And, uh, she fills her in on it. And then the boyfriend's there and he's a gardener

Frank: and he found a way to get hired. Is this place not a secret

k, no, let's go over here to [:

Mm-hmm that then? Oh, wait, that's not private enough. And then we go to this garden room with a giant blue camera that he then turns off and, uh, then they fuck. And then I was confused about why the other girl seemed jealous then Armana yeah. She wanted to hook up with her. Okay. Yeah.

Frank: Yeah, no, no. That's from

Scott: the beginning.

So she was there because she was a lesbian and her parents were trying to deprogram her. Um, was that her thing? That,

Frank: her thing, she said it it's because they, she wanted to sing her music and they wanted her to sing the poppy shit and

Scott: be this. Oh, that's why they shut her musical number down. Yes .

Frank: Yeah. So yeah, there was a part at the beginning where she was explaining they, because the girls, before

Scott: you, who she was, her music is not very good either.

erts singing that's with her [:

Scott: nice. I went, oh no. Like immediately when there was like singing it in the opening of the movie, I was like, fuck mm-hmm is there

Frank: gonna be more we got into.

But no, I wasn't impressed with that singing. I wasn't impressed with Armon singing, but no, I liked her

Scott: parachute veil.

Frank: it took operators to help her run it. Um, no, but I, they mentioned, she did say it's very interesting that she said, because sh she was a lesbian because I, that would've been a great angle, but that would've been a better angle.

Yeah. She, she makes the comment because you know, the girls know her as the, that pop star who sings that song. When she's talking to Uma, she lets her know they want, I tried to sing my own music. They don't want that. I'm not in control. She's this puppet for

Scott: everyone else. The loose, they don't want me to be a lesbian thing.

Would've been had

Frank: more impact. No, I'm I didn't even think about it like that. Just cuz I knew that they'd mention it. So I was like, oh this is about the singing. And like you said, they shut her down. I went

Scott: from like, is she [:

Frank: but also she wanted a Banga hardcore.

It was there from the beginning. She

Scott: kisses her later and she gives her a little

Frank: pack at one point. And then later, later she kisses

Scott: her. Yeah. But I was like, all right, like no impact whatsoever. Emma Roberts did not look particularly into it. She

Frank: was torn. She didn't, her character, I believe was torn because Marcus had come there.

She had her

Scott: Marcus. Well, the only reason I say that is because I feel like it took all of the emotional wind out of her love triangle problem. Well, here's the

Frank: thing Armana was obviously showing interest the boyfriend who's a lower shows up to whisker away and take her away from this trap, weird ass boarding school.

even stronger bond with arm, [:

Scott: the story.

Yeah. And then the, with them getting drugged at night when they were, uh, drinking that little bit of milk mm-hmm would you be a little bit suspicious? Somebody gave you a swallow of milk. always dinner. Like I get the. In the eighties, everybody was like, finish your milk. You gotta drink your milk. Strong bones, strong bones, strong bones.

That was weird. Cuz nobody drinks milk anymore. And in the future, no one will drink milk. Probably it'll

Frank: be synthetic

Scott: milk. I love milk though. milk me. Milk are fine. Doesn't hurt my stomach, all that stuff. I just thought it was a sort of weird for all these pretty girls to be

Frank: drinking milk you milk are not fine.

I have to drink fucking lactate. I had to get used to that years ago. I'm fine. Now a

Scott: lot of people I know are like that me, I got no problem. I could drink gallons of it. I love it.

Frank: But yeah, this, uh, they didn't push it hard enough or they didn't push it in the right direction. They didn't expand

Scott: enough.

showed us that scene in the [:

The conflict of the character, not this scenery. And so that, that's why I say like all the scenes were kind of just stretched around the scene. Did

Frank: you notice the place where they're eating dinner? You know, when it's outside and it's got the big trees and stuff? Yeah. It looked

Scott: like a Disney restaurant did

Frank: that not look like the same setting as, uh, big little lies?

Like the parties that they do outside were the,

Scott: yeah, a little bit. It looked like a, a typical garden party, California garden party kinda thing. See, I felt like

Frank: they did it at the same damn place I wanted to dig deep. I just didn't have time to do it. Part of me finally did at the same garden center

Scott: weirdly enough and totally different.

It kinda looked like when Ashby has parties in California, occasion Lee from battle star at his

Frank: rock, at his, uh, rockstar house. And

Scott: when is rockstar mansion, it was kind of dressed the same sort of way. And it's

Frank: California. [:

Scott: that was they, but the backgrounds didn't look CGI.

There were just weird. Like there was lots of eighties references way too many Alice Wonderland references from the costumes to the just tons and tons of, but the end was like the biggest one , you know, and, uh, when the pop star leaves at that point, she kissed her and you've thrown out all your character conflict.

The only problem now is the external conflict

Frank: in the story. Well, at that point you're supposed, was she going to pick Armon? Was she gonna pick Marcus? You know, like where's her heart.

Scott: Even that I didn't think was fully established enough for me to give a shit about it. I want to give a shit about it.

Mm-hmm , you know, I'm not, I'm not into not liking movies, like, or prejudging them or anything like that, but this one lost me really fast with the story problem

Frank: when there's so many small misses, just

was established a little bit [:

Frank: and creepy ass dude, trying to get engaged to her,

Scott: why he wanted to be engaged to her.

And, and then there wasn't enough of him to make him a villain. So they were making the DUS, the villain. So after she leaves and then they, they make that decision to throw up the milk. You you're going to escape. Yeah. You gets taken too quick. Kind of seemed, uh, bad planning, a lot of bad planning by these characters in this movie.

Mm-hmm fast and loose.

Frank: I did like the move when she tried to test the waters that first. She almost got caught. So she acted like she was passed out on the floor. I kinda

Scott: like that too. And, and that they justified it in the like, well, sometimes they pass out when they go to the bathroom, sometimes

Frank: they pass out.

Yeah. At least they

ce from nightmare Elm street [:

Frank: in the Freddy song.

I more just fairy tale their in heaven.

Scott: I, I felt like this movie was supposed to be that like eighties fantasy

Frank: feel like I, it was very fashion forward. It where I feel as if they failed in set design, they made up for in the wardrobe. Some of that stuff was that's high fashion. Some

Scott: of it weird. Yeah.

It's weird. Yeah. I don't fully get it, but I didn't hate it. Like I said, it looked great. What'd you think of, uh, Miele? Jovi's Matt Lauer door

Frank: she definitely has a button too. no, I mean it was good and she was creepy enough.

Scott: A lot of montage. What was with the, uh, carousel ride? up to the ceiling.

Frank: Yeah, the carousel horse that okay. um, could have been better. You

Scott: know, uh, when she picked pockets, the boyfriend mm-hmm for that remote control. Yeah. The zip, the zapper

Frank: thing, uh, he doesn't have a pocket.

It's like a weird [:

Scott: it's a really bad shot of, it was like he was wearing an apron. Like somebody handed it to her little things like that. Take me out of the movie. I mean, they take you way out of the movie. Well, it's

Frank: just, there were, like I said, several misses where I feel like you were supposed to be feeling the story.

And I felt like it was

Scott: choppy. I felt like a rough draft of screenplay that they made. They made a really elaborate movie set around this. Nobody

Frank: polished anything

Scott: up. No it and three

Frank: screenwriters though. It's like, when you see how many people produce, like a pop song now. Yeah.

Scott: Also later when the remote hits the floor and it's full of dirt, did you notice that?

Yeah,

Frank: like, it was so fake. It's full of dirt. bombshell. Not really. I mean, fuck. Um,

Scott: I wanted to make another reference to a movie that's out right now, but I haven't actually seen the movie. I've read the short story and. We were ruin

Frank: in the movie. Then I called everything that happened in this movie except for one

Scott: thing.

made to death so many times [:

And that's not to say that that's the, the twist, you know? And so I guess spoiler warning and I , I, I'm not sure I would recommend this movie to anyone, but I definitely think that the end was maybe the best part. Well, at the same time. So like the very end they, no, from, from here out third act, they, uh, they go down into the basement mm-hmm and they get

Frank: eyes

Scott: on what's happening.

They discover the pool mummies. Why are they wearing bandages? They don't seem to need the bandages

Frank: it's to help anymore peel all the surgeries.

ir standards and giving them [:

Mm-hmm so their parents can be proud, which that's fucking weird. Mm-hmm other Aquafina gives the speech about it. Fo Aquafina pH Aquafina. Yeah. fo U fo U .

Frank: Perfect. Yeah. Yeah. Fo U gives, did you notice her eyes were a different color than the other? Yeah, they were

Scott: blue pull mummy. You

Frank: oh, it's cuz she took the bandage off too soon.

was that over her eyes? It was at first. Oh, okay.

Scott: I'm pretty sure. Well, the other ones take the, the, although they picked a really good skinny version of that girl. Yes. I was like,

Frank: yes, yes. Yeah. Chloe was there cuz her parents fantastic. Wanted her to be more like her sisters. yeah. Who

Scott: I, I, you could not fat, but they picked a good actress to be skinny her, like they didn't do any sort of weird CGI job or anything like that.

she pulls the dead dad card [:

Frank: dad thing fo U tries to call her out on it. You think we haven't been through, what did she say?

Scott: Something on? Yeah, she, what bads her Rick real hard. Like she's like, but your pain doesn't make my pain any less painful. Yeah.

Frank: um, and then from there, are we already getting to the, the final fight?

Scott: Well, I mean, pretty much it's all

Frank: downhill from here. What I wanted to say about the, um, I was like, what the fuck is she poison Ivy

Scott: yeah, so they get down, they get down into that, that cave.

the fucking Rose Bush cave, uh, props on killing fucking everyone because you. Uh, huh? Uh, the pop star that left. And we now find out that she's been replaced and we don't know what happened to her. She's dead in the fucking cave. Mm-hmm but what the fuck? So everything is like, sort of tangible up till now, but what is her

Frank: being this [:

She's a rose monster. Yeah. Who devours? The flesh and the, well, the

Scott: blood of paints, the white roses red. Did she say that? No, but it's, it's a fucking overt Allison Wonderland thing. It's the roses thorn. Sorry, it's the blood. They're all white roses growing in the darkness of this fucking cave. Mm-hmm . And as they poke into the people, they suck all their blood out and mummify them.

And so they're like rosebush mummies, so many mummies. Oh,

Frank: was it Chloe that she was sucking on?

Scott: Is that what it was? Yeah. Yeah. It grabbed Chloe Le cause she lost her. Lilu was

Frank: sucking on leu, Dallas, multi. Lilu Del's multi pass was sucking, sucking, Chloe dry. She was the thicker country girl whose parents wanted her to be skinnier, UMO witnesses.

This, how about the, the villainous rise up of the, and she forms the dress out of the vines.

Scott: Yeah. And I, was she part of the roses or were the roses just doing her bidding or what the fuck? What did that have to do with, what did that have to do with

hing? Anything, because once [:

Scott: She dies by being stabbed with a scalpel sort of.

Frank: Yeah. So obviously no super power to where

Scott: she's well, she can control roses. That's pretty super . Yeah.

Frank: And she's good at sucking blood outta people. Super

Scott: but she just gets stabbed with the scalpel and fucking dies.

Frank: Immediately. Game game over island starts to crumble. Did you feel towards the end? They mentioned everybody died there. Like the entire island collapsed.

Scott: Because of the roses where cropping the island up in the caves,

Frank: because right there at the very end, you know, people are still searching, so you don't think everybody's dead.

But then I feel like there was a comment made at the wedding. That is the end beginning of the movie.

Scott: this all happened before.

Frank: Yeah. I felt there was a comment there that said that everybody died, but I could have been misreading it. But at that point you're just confused. Cuz what the fuck is she

Scott: like poison Ivy.

boat mm-hmm and there's the [:

No, I, no, it's me. It's which is fine. As far as the trope goes, it's always good, but

Frank: no, and they let Marcus live. That's fine.

Scott: Did you notice there was like blood on the scalpel and I guess it was from the Duchess when it's pressed against his neck, by when it goes away, there's no blood on his neck.

Frank: Okay.

So I think it was supposed to be his blood.

Scott: That's what I thought. Cuz even if, if it was the Duchess's blood, because I feel there would've been

Frank: more of it when UMMA Emma. Holds it up to his throat. There's no blood. Then I feel like it's next scene or the scene after there is blood on it. Like, okay, there's blood now.

It wasn't there initially.

Scott: Yeah. I, I did notice you're right notice. Cause I was looking, but there was no cut on his neck when they took it

t this point. Yeah. Yeah. I, [:

Scott: magical.

All of the exposition in this movie to explain to you what's happening is so vague that it does nothing. It just is to cover. We didn't finish writing this fucking movie.

Frank: I had high hopes for it. So I, I would say,

Scott: I thought this was new. When you, when you had suggested

I didn't notice the year, but:

Scott: I thought maybe it was a Netflix movie.

Mm-hmm and

Frank: it's like a 20, 22 Netflix. When

Scott: I found out it was:

Frank: Well, I'm glad you that opening scene. I was scared, man. So at that point immediately, I hit pause to see how much time was left. Cuz I didn't check run time when I'd looked on IMDB.

And so when I saw, what was it, an hour 40 or something hour 30, 7 41, something like that. I was very happy. Still didn't make the last 10 minutes. Last night had to squeeze that

s what she wanted to do with [:

Mm-hmm and it looked interesting. I I'd be interested in watching it's like 12 minutes long. Uh, I should have watched it before I did this, so I could judged

Frank: a little better. One more since. If you think about watching paradise Hills and by the time this comes out, if you still haven't seen it, if you're thinking about paradise Hills and that's that description kind of draws you in watch level 16.

Scott: Yeah. That looked darker and grittier I'm I'm now a little more interested in watching it, cuz I, I would kinda like to see, I mean, I've seen this movie and it

Frank: might be different. So I saw level 16 first then saw this and I, I knew there might be something a little close. I just didn't expect certain

Scott: things to be close overlap.

Yeah. When I saw the trailer for level 16, I was like, then. Looks like never let me go only a little more. Sci-fi

didn't know. But then after [:

Scott: watching, yeah. The way you talked about it was the same way you talked about watch Mandela effect you know, were you

Frank: like, I'm pretty sure it's good, but it might just be really

Scott: bad.

Um, I still have never gotten to that one. That was like, that was like a shadow in the cloud. It was a Frank movie that I was like, I don't know if I'm ready to sign up for that

Frank: and that one's close. It's iffy, but definitely after watching paradise Hills, I would recommend level 16 over paradise Hills pass on paradise Hills search level 16.

See if it's still on Netflix, maybe it's moved on to Hulu by the time you hear this

Scott: it could be on free V

So, and we don't even have to have a conversation about, is this a good movie? This was not a very good movie.

Frank: Sorry. I, Emma Roberts, I, I, you know, I didn't have a problem with anyone's acting. I thought all, all the performers were great. Like I said, the wardrobe from a wardrobe perspective, I feel like they nailed it in a different kind of way.

e ago with Ernie Hudson said [:

Frank: It was hard for me to get through this movie and it was only an hour and a half hour, 40 minutes. And it was so hard for me to get through this. I,

Scott: I made it through just. Did you? Yeah. Uh,

Frank: I, I was extremely tired, but I passed out. Like I, I straight passed out.

Scott: I'm more of a completionist than you. I don't have a 20 minute rule.

If I made it 20 minutes into the movie, you're gonna go, you might just go for it. You know, this is the same, I'll start a book I don't like and be halfway through it. And I should just quit and read

Frank: another book. See this one wouldn't have passed the 20 minute test. No, I had an icky feeling from the get go.

Uh,

Scott: that first scene was a dead giveaway because

ither. Some of it was great, [:

Scott: Yeah. So let this be a warning to you all yeah.

Frank: Stay away from paradise hill is check out level 16.

Scott: Well, the thing about the, the other thing, and I, I know that I say a lot about like this patriarchy anti patriarchy message that gets crammed into movies a lot, and I'm not trying to trash it.

I just want you to do it in a way that is helpful. You know, like Handmaid's tale is a very tactful allegory. This movie did on top of everything else did not give its audience enough credit that they could figure your message out and started to spell it out in the last quarter. You know, cuz then there's the poorly planned murder, which we didn't even talk about at the end of the movie that is so loose that like I was relieved at how loose it was.

bad idea. If you are double [:

I was really confused too. In the beginning of the movie, I, she looks at her mother as she's walking up the stairs. Yes. And that was supposed to be like the Mo the handoff moment at the end for the end. Bit mm-hmm when she looks at the mother, conspiratorially almost in the beginning of it. So I was really fucking thrown off cuz I was like, where's this lady that she looked at, is she gonna help her?

Where is she? By the end of the movie, I was like, oh, it's her mother shouldn't she hate her mother over the low class girls taken her place. Anyway, she's giving it to her and she's gonna go to this place. He's one

Frank: up the stairs

Scott: was Zuma Emma NOA. I would like to point out that when she gives her that map, that's inside her very heavy hairpin.

That was the one thing I was wrong about that map was topographical. it's the future.

I had wrong. As soon as she [:

And it was like

Scott: a hummingbird or something, which felt also my hunger games, mocking Jay kind of

Frank: thing. It was weird. But as soon I knew arm was gonna die, I knew she was gonna die as soon as she kissed her. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Um, and then she gave her that, and as soon as I saw that that damn hair clip. I was like, that's going to kill the asshole guy.

Who's trying to marry her who took the dad's company and I was completely wrong. I thought that was going to be the weapon, like, fuck you. I lost her. I had to say, fuck you, Marcus. Cuz he turned. Yeah. And I didn't

Scott: grab a bunch of reviews for this movie cuz the way I felt about it, that I was, I don't wanna read you a bunch of negative reviews that

Frank: I great.

And honestly 5.3 on IMDB should have been a four, 3.7. Yeah. I'm feeling 3.7. Maybe

Scott: I would give them a 4.3

Frank: are I looked at [:

Scott: Just on, on set design looking pretty good. It didn't look CGI blue screen background. I'm sure a lot of it was.

Frank: I felt like they wanted to do more than they

Scott: could.

Yeah. And, but they did that at the expensive story, which is, uh, mm-hmm you can make a shit sci-fi channel movie, but if it's written, well, you got me, like, that's it. That's all I need. It could be acted kind of terribly. It could be, it could look like shit, camera work could be bad. The CGI could be bad. But if the story is there and I start to connect with the characters a little bit, I start to worry about their problems and tension is created.

Then you got me. I know, but this movie missed that at the same time. The way I laid this, the outline for this episode out was in classic movie story form. All of these are plot points that studios will look for when they read a script, is this hero's journey happening and they're all there, the style and everything else they did after that was.

[:

Frank: but, and I just wish I would've called you in time last night before I passed out to see if you could squeeze in level

Scott: 16, I could have too.

Yeah, could

Frank: sure. And that's yeah, cuz it was before midnight. I was just, I was donesky

Scott: and uh, what, what I did like was, uh, the fucking THX soldier that were like running after fucking THX 1, 1 38 costumes sort of night ish.

Frank: Well, wait, are you talking about the all black or the white, white? The white one with the almost yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh man. yeah. Like a little hint of

Scott: Sam. Yeah. There were some things about the movie I liked about the movie mm-hmm but it, uh, overall not, not a good movie. I don't know. But if I had seen this when I was a little kid. Would I have thought this was great.

me in except for the colors.[:

Oh, the bedroom set the way there. Three beds with those neon lights around the trim. I did like that. They were like open bedrooms. Oh yes. They have

Scott: swapping outside. Now. They were basically like, and uh, the past star girl gets to sleep on her own floor. up there? Yeah. That was weird. Armana

Frank: Amarna Amarna that's it?

Yeah. Amarna wait. Yes Amarna. And remember,

Scott: I, I started this clock way late.

Frank: I thought it was 10 or 15 late my Xmen abilities. I have this mental clock, uh, a power of process of elimination that most people don't and my body temperature,

Scott: my whole goal in life is to look down and lose track of time. That is, there's nothing better to me than being like the whole day is gone,

Frank: you know, weird side effect, day three, no caffeine.

These days have gone by pretty fucking fast. It's weird. Really? Cause you would think it would be slower, right? Huh? Cause you're not jacked up. That's interesting. No, I know when you said. I would very much appreciate that too. Just to be able to lose time for a minute. That's

Scott: my favorite thing. That's what, that's why I play video games.

Mm-hmm is it at flow [:

Frank: So, and, and what sucks is though at home on a weeknight after work, you don't want the time to disappear like that. cuz you're like,

Scott: yeah, this is away from work. yeah, that gives me the, uh, uh, I think it was, I, I always get it confused.

I can't remember if it's, uh, slaughter house five or catch 22, but there's a guy who's trying to be bored all the time and it sounds more VATE to me actually come to think of it, but, uh, he's trying to be bored all the time. Mm-hmm so his life is longer I, I think I read that book when I was really young and I was like, that's brilliant.

That's all I ever want, but that's not what I want. I want to be so into something that the day just disappeared. Yeah. And I'm pretty good at it. Not everyone is sort of frustrates me too. cause I'm like, why can't you just lose yourself?

Frank: and yeah,

Scott: shitty jobs. I've [:

You know,

Frank: when I was doing temp work and I read an entire Chuck P book in one. That was awesome that I was doing a temp job to show a model home. Nobody came, I had time to read an entire book in one sitting and get, get paid for it, doing temp work,

Scott: showing a model home. I'd

Frank: sneak out the back door and like vape and like blow it away.

Like

And then I'd go in and pick up where I left off in the

Scott: book. There's always money in

Frank: the banana stand front. Like two guys came by asking for the guy who was normally there. And I was like, oh, it's me today. And they're like, oh, we'll come back. Okay. fuck you. Bye .

Scott: So next time we're gonna watch a movie that I know I enjoyed.

murdering is practically the [:

It's fucking dense. And there's whole parts of the book. I don't know it fucking happened but I like it. And that's how I feel about Komack McCarthy. But this movie has a 5.3 on IMDB, which

Frank: is the same rating as paradise one,

Scott: which is why it was part of the reason I put it on the list of movies that, that we should watch.

It just came to HBO. Mm-hmm it has a 48 out of a hundred metas score. So that's like all the review sites put together. This movie was written by Komack McCarthy. It was not a Komack McCarthy book. It was a core Mac McCarthy, screenplay. Uh, apparently he's written five screenplays. This is the only one that's been turned into a movie other than sunset limited was also a core Mac McCarthy screenplay, but it was written to be a.

tty horses, special place in [:

And you've never seen

Frank: this. Nope, I, and I it's crazy that you brought it up cuz you gave me a list of movies that you thought would be good. And this one, I almost hit play on the other night. And like I said, I went with old school on

Scott: something else. Well, I wanna talk about this movie and I found it extremely fucking interesting mm-hmm that it has such a low score for being a Ridley Scott movie.

Mm-hmm I'll I'll end up looking it up, but I wonder if this isn't Ridley Scott's lowest reviewed

Frank: movie. I mean a 5.3 probably cuz he doesn't. Most of what he touches is at least a gold

Scott: level thing. What was the one after that? This one, though. It was, uh, that rid Scott did. Yeah. It was like God's, uh God's and monsters or, ah, whoa.

Yeah. I, I can't even remember it. It was not a great weirdly Scott movie.

r, I'd never seen it either. [:

I wanted to reel it back

Scott: a little. we we'll get a little deeper next time, but this movie's gonna be dense. Hey,

Frank: have you seen passenger 57? Yeah, always bet on black . Have you ever seen demolition man? thanks everyone for joining us for the last video store clerks podcast, be sure to leave a rating and subscribe.

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The Last Video Store Clerks
With Frank and Scott
The Last Video Store Clerks try to figure out what a good movie even is in the age of streaming. Are there still Cult Classics with no shelf to put them on? Something is missing. Former video store clerks Frank Roll and Scott Moran aim to find it. Or at least, comedy and a silver lining. What is a good movie anyway?

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Former video store clerk, current sci-fi horror writer. Our copywriter, podcast editor, audio engineer, and resident bad good movie expert.