Jurassic World Dominion - The Terrible Trouble with Trilogies
As we pick apart Jurassic World Dominion aka Jurassic World 3 aka Jurassic Park 6. Frank explains away the plot holes, and Scott tries to reason out where it all went wrong. Can the parallels between the trilogy low points explain the problem with episodic trilogies?
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Jurassic World Dominion
[:[00:00:09] Frank: Blockbuster, Hollywood and the independent video store are
[:[00:00:19] And ask the question, what the fuck is that? Does this hold up? And just, what the hell is a good movie? Anyway, I'm Frank Ro. I'm Scott Moran, and we are the
[:[00:00:34] Scott: I've only been watching stuff like right before bed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get into the rhythms sometimes. I feel like the day is over if I stop doing stuff now and go watch tv.
[:[00:00:46] Frank: I don't have time to the evening. I'm like, got it on Disney. This week I watched Frozen again, and you're
[:[00:00:53] Frank: it's what's on. That's what I'm saying. Oh,
[:[00:01:01] See for a second, I thought you, like, everybody went to bed and you were like, You know what?
[:[00:01:11] Scott: I started the second season of the Vow Nexium. I had said that I wouldn't watch this season.
[:[00:01:18] There's more than
[:[00:01:33] I was like, I am tired of you guys. I don't feel super bad for you because they finally got a call. . Well the guy who, the main guy in the first season is the guy who made the what the bleep do we know Documentary. And he did that before he joined N xm. His story is really interesting cuz he's male and he was taken by this guy in a lot of ways and he also got out faster.
[:[00:02:17] Because a lot of the times, I want 10 years to pass. Then I'll watch a documentary about your fucking cult when we got all the, All of the people are willing to come and talk
[:[00:02:27] Scott: came about it. This is really interesting because some of those girls that left during the raid, they didn't do anything necessarily illegal, but they're still all fucked up brainwashed, or not really brainwashed necessarily, but it really helped their lives.
[:[00:02:59] Because it sounds like once Nancy, the president was pulled in, she immediately pleaded guilty to a low level charge and it just fucked everything up for everyone else. No one could say they didn't do anything wrong. At that point it happened. Who knows what level of betrayal happened or who knew what.
[:[00:03:20] Frank: Nah. He's the type of guy, he's like, You wanna watch me do karate? He's like, I can show you some karate. Yeah.
[:[00:03:35] Seriously though, you are the kind of guy who just thinks volleyball's the best next to karate, like in a gym too, not on a beach or anything like, It's not just cuz it's around. It's like they went to a gym with the express intention of playing volleyball, . I don't get into many docu-series anymore. It's just not a lot of interesting murders happen.
[:[00:04:10] Frank: if you're familiar with them, you know, You know what I mean?
[:[00:04:13] Scott: that's with the, like with the murder stuff, new, interesting murders aren't happening, which is good. Maybe, Which is good. Yeah. I mean, not having more murder documentaries is, uh, it's a blessing and a curse. I was so into them. My mom has been watching haunting documentaries lately that have scared the fuck out of her.
[:[00:04:46] Um, you know you sent me
[:[00:04:48] Scott: movie. The Megan
[:[00:04:52] Scott: that. I knew you would. I was like, oh, this is a me and Frank one. Yeah, for sure. That one I got a little hyped about James Wayne. I don't know if he's the director, but he's the producer. I'm down to check it out.
[:[00:05:27] That's overenthusiastic boosted
[:[00:05:40] Scott: vaccinated. That's kinda what I want out of the Democratic party, right? Real aggress, aggressive, left of center
[:[00:05:52] Scott: researched, aggression, agro liberal . That's what we need, Dude. I think I know a guy. I, I want them to be, I want, uh, like our politicians to be a little bit like fucking mean. You know? I don't like Bill Mar very much, but I want you to act a little bit more like him. Yeah. I want, uh, the Democrat.
[:[00:06:19] Frank: does everybody with a, You could find anyone else, Everybody with a Beto sticker on their car just drives like shit. And I'm like, Guys, we gotta come together here and drive
[:[00:06:28] They haven't been out the last few years. ?
[:[00:06:36] Scott: mean, I'm a little tense when I drive now. How many other dinosaur movies can you think of other than Jurassic Park Land? Before time I knew you were gonna say that first , do you remember? We Are Back. We're Back. It had the Kid from The Last Action Hero and it was like tiny little dinosaurs.
[:[00:06:56] Frank: movies. You know, I, I could tell you that I never saw it. That sounds familiar, but I bet. I just never got around
[:[00:07:07] Frank: This is fucking ridiculous. No, and the only other thing.
[:[00:07:11] Scott: too. It was probably straight to video movie. I'm not sure though. That was at the video store when you were a kid? Yeah, when I was a kid and I was like, Oh my God, I have to see that little tiny dinosaurs . Perfect. And I wanna say they were like ridiculous.
[:[00:07:42] Frank: Do you remember their shit? I don't remember it, but I, Theodore Rex.
[:[00:07:46] Scott: It had a song dude, didn't it? I'm pretty sure Alled did. Walked Dinosaur. It's not like heavy in that movie. I know Whoopi Goldberg got tricked into making that movie and didn't wanna do it. Well, she got paid. I liked it when I
[:[00:08:01] Scott: that.
[:[00:08:08] Frank: Bob Hoskins. Bob Hoskins. Was that
[:[00:08:27] Frank: Cause those were the creepiest fuckers and they were just so, that shit was crazy.
[:[00:08:36] Frank: Goba. There you go. Damn. I hope nobody's keeping score on my Super Mario Brothers
[:[00:08:46] Frank: that one people bring it up and it reminds me of Street Fighter Howard the Duck.
[:[00:08:53] Scott: now. When em bison came to your village, the end of everything you knew. For me it's Tuesday. Say what you will about how stupid it is, but it's uh, a fighting video game. And that one of the last movies that he did, the last movie.
[:[00:09:23] Frank: No. Um, I don't think, there are a lot of dinosaur movies that I've seen. Jurassic Park definitely took the
[:[00:09:40] Frank: There it is.
[:[00:09:43] Scott: That had a dinosaur in it, right? It did, yeah. I mean, sort of, Yeah. It had a, like a terrain store in it or
[:[00:09:54] Scott: that. Today we watch Jurassic Park Dominion, which is gonna be weird because, uh, this is the first time we've ever done just a sequel to something.
[:[00:10:07] Frank: What happens when it's like the second, third one in a trilogy? Is there a name for that? ?
[:[00:10:26] Is there a movie with trolls
[:[00:10:29] Scott: Uh,
[:[00:10:36] Scott: Oh, I thought here last second. Nah, nevermind. It's too late.
[:[00:10:47] Scott: I always kind of thought that Jurassic Park would eventually be a Dino Riders.
[:[00:10:54] Frank: I mean, they did weaponize them in the movies, but not the cartoon. A what cartoon? Well, there's a new cartoon now.
[:[00:11:02] Frank: Park scene? See, I don't think there was. I was gonna say that as, I don't think there was an attempt then.
[:[00:11:10] Scott: Oh. It's like one of those animatronic dinosaur places. No man. Just statues. Yes. Oh man.
[:[00:11:19] Scott: sometime. Anyway, I wanna say in West Virginia, we went to an animatronic dinosaur thing in West Virginia, for a school trip, and it was around Jurassic Park time.
[:[00:11:43] Frank: Like in religious, where he goes to Noah.
[:[00:11:50] I enjoyed that a bit more than I should have. Does it not seem weird to you that there aren't any dinosaur movies with Jurassic Park movies?
[:[00:12:01] Scott: really weird. You did a weird thing. I feel like there should be, It's a easily capitalized on thing. I know.
[:[00:12:14] Frank: else. You know, I think you may have just nailed it. Look at what is out there with dinosaurs. You don't wanna watch it because you see the, like, the cover picture and you're like, No, not today. I've actually seen quite a few.
[:[00:12:35] Scott: Oh, it was like a delicate sound of thunder kind of thing. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Okay. And
[:[00:12:42] Scott: were so bad.
[:[00:13:00] Shouldn't have even brought him up. But yeah, he was the main character of it. Ben Kingsley. Was Ben Kingsley in. Ben Kingsley was in it. Yeah, that's what it was. I wanted to like it. I wanted to watch it. This GI is fucking terrible. Yeah, no, I saw those dinosaurs. I like a little pissed. A past the time period.
[:[00:13:14] Frank: That was some shit that came on Saturday mornings on the wb when you were in high school.
[:[00:13:25] Frank: You can't rub Ben Gay on a Heartache
[:[00:13:34] Scott: You're not gonna say the name of it. Nah. Figure that shit out. You figure it out. Figure that shit. You got N B B. Yeah. How will look it up though? Because that's so vague. . So vague. . I don't think it's necessary to summarize Jurassic World, Dom. I don't know why you're here.
[:[00:14:10] Well, and maybe it's
[:[00:14:19] Scott: the time. It's weird that you say that because when I think about Lost World, I always think Laura Lenny is in it. And then I'm like, Wait, now it's Julian Moore.
[:[00:14:40] Frank: if there was a li, if I could put everything that I want to see on one list, it would be so long. There's things out there I haven't seen that I need
[:[00:14:49] You should make that list and then read it really fast on the podcast, ,
[:[00:15:00] Scott: watch all three. Someone out there is shitting themselves.
[:[00:15:13] Frank: I
[:[00:15:21] Frank: Four years after the events of fallen kingdom dinosaurs. And how freely rum the planet. Claire and Owen, Bryce, Dallas, Howard and Chris Pert are secretly raising 14 year old Maisy Lockwood, a clone of the daughter of John Hammond's partner, who we never saw on the first three film. But was presumably created as a stand-in for the late Richard Attenborough also blew.
[:[00:15:55] Ellie Sadler captures one and takes it to Dr. Allen Grant, who identifies it as csis, period dna. He looked . Don't
[:[00:16:09] Frank: was like, Oh, nope. Yeah, that's just large or big, whatever the fuck he said, . Yeah. No shit. Sherlock. Yeah. It's a big fucking
[:[00:16:18] I'd like to point out, not Jurassic
[:[00:16:27] Frank: that. It's Cretaceous, isn't it? You put Crusta? Is that, wait, is that what it's supposed to say? I don't know. , It says Crusta. I think it's read it both
[:[00:16:50] Frank: Creta, I knew. Okay. It
[:[00:16:54] Frank: cause it's Christa s Dsco. . I , I'm so, I feel like I'm gonna attacked mys. It's the stations . I gotta get
[:[00:17:10] the
[:[00:17:24] Uh, what are they called? Feet. Dr. Ellie Sadler captures one and takes it to Dr. Allen Grant, who identifies it as cous period dna. Also. Meanwhile, Franklin Webb, who you may remember from Fallen Kingdom, is being dressed up like Samuel Jackson. Tells Claire and Owen that Macy is being taken to Malta. There they infiltrate the Dino Black market.
[:[00:18:06] Henry Wu into creating the locus to control the world's food supply. Ian Malcolm has enlisted Dr. Sadler to help expose. Ellie of course arrives with Dr. Grant and they infiltrate the facility for a sample of the Locus DNA again. Meanwhile, Claire Owen and Kahler attacked by a quad aza cos over the
[:[00:18:24] It's a flying
[:[00:18:52] Scott: Jurassic World.
[:[00:19:23] I get it, man. You gotta go see the dinosaurs. Teddy, I want to see the dinosaur. Can I see the dinosaurs? Daddy, would you like some Dinos? Oh, can I see the, please? Let me see The pleases . So in the beginning of this movie, he's a cowboy and she's like in the dinosaur army of the 12 Monkeys.
[:[00:19:48] Scott: Did he not have that in the other two movies? It was a little more playful. He's getting a little, He's getting that Utah, Sierra, Nevada, Little of the Gruffness. But I did like watching him rope a dinosaur. That was cool. That, uh, horse he was riding though was not real. There was some CGI horse going on there.
[:[00:20:16] Frank: I only noticed a couple things. I still thought I remembered it pretty good from
[:[00:20:26] That was definitely longer, right? It wasn't necessary.
[:[00:20:42] Scott: off.
[:[00:20:44] Frank: I think that was in the extended, not in the, uh,
[:[00:20:55] Frank: That's the one that I noticed the most, the head snap. But then when she, uh, Maisy's talking to the doctor, Dr.
[:[00:21:09] Scott: she said. I rarely think that the extended or director's cuts of things are necess. At all a lot of the time, unless I'm a huge fan of the movie and I just want a little more movie, that's cool.
[:[00:21:29] Frank: Abyss. I just wanna throw that out there. Oh, I haven't seen that one. We talked about it recently. Yeah. Just wanna say that, but it
[:[00:21:40] But then at the same time, like, I don't think you'll ever get a director's cut of a Christopher Nolan movie, cuz that's what you already got. I think that's happening less. Less that we're not getting the whole movie. But a lot of these extended ones, I'm like, yeah, I get why you got all this stuff out
[:[00:22:01] Frank: I would try and stay up late to watch anything. And sometimes it'd be like, but it's about dinosaurs. I, I thought that one would work to stay up late because it looks educational.
[:[00:22:11] Scott: How did Blue get to the Sierra Nevadas, you know, in, where were they at the end of the other movie? Cuz Blue didn't come with him. They were
[:[00:22:21] Scott: Probably not in the Sierra Nevadas though. I don't think so. Did it seem like they didn't know Blue was out there until the little one shows up?
[:[00:22:29] Frank: Maisy at one point is, as you know, I named Beta. Right. But yet when she feeds beta, the toast looks surprised. Like she's never talked
[:[00:22:43] Frank: So, but the only interaction that they. Was the toast and the, the confrontation.
[:[00:22:47] Scott: wasn't really a confrontation. Yeah. Other than that they showed blue like doing, teaching it to hunt and stuff in the woods. Yeah. Yeah. I was still like, wait a minute. Cuz another thing is I watched the last movie again cuz I remembered nothing from
[:[00:23:04] I know. It's just, you know, But still it's sad, bland before time shit, you know, That's the
[:[00:23:08] Frank: know. Yeah. The parents died. Yeah. And so that brought it back, you know, shadow in the.
[:[00:23:37] Yeah. She doesn't come
[:[00:23:40] Scott: But she's heavily a main charact. Second one, but why is she burning her clothes? The scent. The scent of the dinosaur.
[:[00:23:55] What was it? Lost World. Remember the tre found the young one by scent. Oh, okay. So either that or just evidence from a crime. That's what I would have to go with one of those two.
[:[00:24:15] Frank: I, I just, it did cross my mind, so that's why I knew. Well, I had a response for you, . I'm not
[:[00:24:27] Frank: So it would attract the predators where they live.
[:[00:24:32] I was like, I need Frank to
[:[00:24:43] Scott: anonymous, and then we busted. Yeah. It also seemed weird that she.
[:[00:24:52] Frank: are you doing? Burning, burning blankets in the barrel out front. Yeah,
[:[00:25:04] Frank: uh, Bry Stiles Howard though I'm fine. She was in that, uh, attack at the Hollywood Cliches for running in high
[:[00:25:22] She's not interested doing each other. Brought together
[:[00:25:26] Scott: and a clone. There were very few, like real moments with them in this movie. And the last one too, like they were still a little flirty, but I think that they, man, they really built up that relationship well in Jurassic World. Yeah.
[:[00:25:57] Sparks weren't flying anymore. It seemed perfunctory. Meanwhile though, again, , Dr. Grant and Dr. Sadler fine still have chemistry conveniently
[:[00:26:13] Scott: grant. Yeah. Uh, I have some stuff to say. I'll hold that for a little while though.
[:[00:26:19] Frank: it, make it nice and warm. Yeah. Let me think about it. You wanna nest on it? Think about it. A little nest on it. Just There you go. Cuddle it up.
[:[00:26:36] Oh, I thought you meant bison. Is that supposed to be the same fucking dude that gives Dennis Netty The barbers saw candle
[:[00:26:43] Scott: Is that Dodson? Oh, because we've got Dodson here. ,
[:[00:26:51] Scott: he was trying to get it all along. I didn't do much research for this one because I mostly wanted to talk about the story.
[:[00:27:13] Frank: can I just say I've waited since the second movie of the original three came out for them to bring up that
[:[00:27:20] Oh, you wanted to know where it went
[:[00:27:39] You know, you're like treasure hunting again for this can, It's the perfect setup. You've got the Dino DNA in the Barbasol can,
[:[00:27:58] Frank: Go. Isla. Sona. Right.
[:[00:28:09] Frank: one? I wasn't ready for that
[:[00:28:13] Frank: you knew. No, and I just want to say, You can check beyond that, but I wanna say useless.
[:[00:28:30] Scott: Yeah. Cuz we were following pretty much one. Storyline, I think you get in the original Jurassic Park. Well, yeah.
[:[00:28:42] Frank: them. The first one, first movie is the park, Second movie is the Rescue. And then third movies are completely fucking opposite. But I think the original Jurassic Park three was kind of its own. Thing ,
[:[00:28:54] So let's talk about that. How these two parallel is kind of interesting. In the first movie, we're at one place we're on an island. Yes. I think that the deterioration from movie one of the trilogies to movie three as far as story quality goes has a lot to do with the resident evil problem I'd mentioned in a previous episode.
[:[00:29:39] Well it was like a cool main and they got Buffalo bill from fucking sal of the land.
[:[00:29:45] Scott: like in the forest. So we've gone to a second location. The second they did the switch, it's, we go to the island. Well man, you
[:[00:29:54] Scott: It's a King Kong.
[:[00:29:58] Frank: Dude, you're getting in there to retrieve. Yeah, retrieve
[:[00:30:07] Frank: So yeah, it was Ian Malcolm and Julian Moore, and they had Mercedes SUVs and Custom RVs.
[:[00:30:15] Scott: Where I do think that this series falls short a little bit is they added Charact. every time and just stuck with these two. Mm-hmm. instead of each of the movies, giving you a little bit more character development of one of the original characters. Cause who would you wonder about from Jurassic Park?
[:[00:30:46] Frank: But you got a taste of Ian Malcolm in the second one,
[:[00:30:51] Ian Malcolm's part in the second movie is the most story development between Core Story. The first movie and the sixth movie, because this is what I've fucking been telling you people. The togetherness, the togetherness, the togetherness is coming in real hot with Ian Malcolm. I don't think it was used as well in this movie as I wanted him to be, but he got his
[:[00:31:10] Towards the end. Answer me
[:[00:31:24] Frank: Malcolm seems like the type of guy who is going to work the best paying gig. Yes,
[:[00:31:29] Scott: yes, yes. And
[:[00:31:34] You know, he didn't know about the dark side of Dotson. God, I can't believe I didn't.
[:[00:31:50] So when we get to that, watching
[:[00:32:03] Scott: him through the whole movie or they call him?
[:[00:32:09] Frank: first name or by Dotson in the movie? They don't call him Dotson in the, this one. No,
[:[00:32:19] If it, if it is, it's like, uh, Dr. Sadler talks about him and she's like, I was, uh, I'm surprised you did. Cause man, I I, that was one of those, it came up right at the beginning of the movie and
[:[00:32:35] Scott: But he has the can of Barbasol. That's what, that's the other thing, Dustin, for him in the first place,
[:[00:32:46] Scott: he got it.
[:[00:32:53] Frank: fucking mind
[:[00:32:58] Frank: How they don't come out of those little
[:[00:33:09] No.
[:[00:33:15] Scott: Bison, they buy, they buy locally and they think globally.
[:[00:33:25] Scott: so you said you wrote down a Jeff Goldblum quote in this. I really wanna see if it was the only other
[:[00:33:38] Scott: should. Wasn't that a line from the first movie?
[:[00:33:42] Frank: again in this one? What I was going to tie that into was, um, hold on, I have to go back to my notes. I took that quote down.
[:[00:33:54] my,
[:[00:34:01] Almost like, uh, the new planet of the A. You know, when man fucks with something that he's not supposed to, you know, if you want to clump it into those movies like a Planet of the Apes or you know, um, oh God, and drama is strain. Just you fuck with things you're not supposed to. So, Michael
[:[00:34:18] Frank: Perfect. There you go. Thank you. Um, and I mean, I'm sure there's others outside of that, right? West. Just the whole point that I was going to get to was, it's another one of those films that falls into that genre in that sense. You know, this third installment, you know, this is like the culmination of Yeah, they fucked it up.
[:[00:34:46] Scott: Yeah. I like that a lot. He's the most interesting character. . Yeah, like for sure.
[:[00:34:53] Scott: black.
[:[00:34:56] Frank: Nah, he wouldn't be one of my
[:[00:35:00] Frank: Goldblum. Yeah. If he talked to me while he did it. In that voice. Yeah. .
[:[00:35:07] Frank: Yeah. Is that synthetic bamboo?
[:[00:35:11] Frank: Oh wait.
[:[00:35:14] Scott: bamboo. Fuck. Woo. Was looking tired in this
[:[00:35:30] He looked
[:[00:35:32] Frank: and what's up with that old man coat that, you know, like you wear to your car? You
[:[00:35:39] Frank: I was like,
[:[00:35:46] Frank: not in a billion dollar lab.
[:[00:35:54] Scott: it seems weird that
[:[00:35:56] Scott: I'll get off it. Like they have this guy who's, It's always, he's always a fucking problem. Woo asshole. Woo sucks, man. And he's so sad holding his bag at the end. Why would they hire Ian Malcolm to this company that Woo works for making fucking locust to control the world food supply?
[:[00:36:24] Frank: extinct. So he was about preserving the dinosaurs and on the outside bias and was about preserving the dinosaurs to further their
[:[00:36:34] I'm not sure that he, uh, should be about preserving the dinosaurs. , wait, Given Ian Malcolm, Ian Malcolm's like role in the lost world, where he's like, No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't bring these fucking things to the mainland. And then we have this fucking Godzilla, fucking tyran
[:[00:36:53] Motherfucker likes a ride. You know what I mean? Just cuz he is sailing fucking east one bank. He might,
[:[00:37:00] Frank: words. So, And at this point in his career, he's obviously a public speaker and an author. He's a personality. So when a multi-billion dollar corporation comes to you and it's like, Hey, come speak to the staff, here's 180 K a year and you get to stay here in this facility.
[:[00:37:18] Scott: you think two scientists that were previously in a relationship with each other could. One as a witness while they do a heist. Oh.
[:[00:37:28] Scott: there. Yeah. And, and not, not a normal heist. It was more like a old Jack Nicholson and Morgan Freeman heist.
[:[00:37:37] Scott: Uh, no. Uh, , I don't, I don't fucking buy that shit. You just get a witness and then bring 'em to a. Valley the Lost
[:[00:38:04] Frank: Yeah, No shit.
[:[00:38:14] Scott: haven't just said it right now. You say it all the time
[:[00:38:23] I'm gonna keep picking pick at it. I've got a couple picks myself. That doesn't mean I don't like it. A little
[:[00:38:35] Frank: How about the end when they triangulate? Oh,
[:[00:38:40] And then Dr. Grant does it like he's a fucking cartoon character, Dr. Grant .
[:[00:38:59] Uh, I couldn't shake. Every time he smiled, I was like, Oh, it's gonna get creepy.
[:[00:39:11] Frank: with the, what was that, The aaus or something like that?
[:[00:39:14] Scott: It was the, the Mega Predator in the movie. Yeah. I don't know. Dinosaur names. Biggest carnivore they've ever seen. Yeah. It's a, you know, Harrier sort. It was the T-Rex is faux, and I don't know what that thing was with the c. But it definitely herbivore one. It definitely killed a goat to get a snack off the ground.
[:[00:39:40] Frank: It doesn't have to. It was to show you that you don't mean anything to it. I
[:[00:39:48] Frank: I've got a thing against
[:[00:39:53] On the motorcycle. The James Bond Raptor scene.
[:[00:40:01] Scott: You wanna really get down, How does a laser pointer send raptors that aren't looking at it to a person's
[:[00:40:11] And they track that scent implanted by the laser pointer? No,
[:[00:40:19] Frank: All right. When she points the laser at you, it actually kind of scorches the material that you're wearing. So it hits some people's skin, though. It actually scorches the skin just a little to create a specific scent of seared flesh that that dinosaur was locked
[:[00:40:37] I will not accept any of the answers. .
[:[00:40:52] Scott: I was gonna accept that one. .
[:[00:41:01] Scott: No. Um, why if, uh, a pilot, you know, Is flying into your valley of the lost dinosaur sanctuary, and you notice they have unregistered passengers, do you down the plane in the middle of your dinosaur sanctuary, potentially killing one of your dinosaurs that apparently Claire got for them too. On top of
[:[00:41:26] I never finished watching devs, but similar thing.
[:[00:41:37] Frank: Indiana Jones ever lost his
[:[00:41:42] Frank: wind or something. Yeah. Yeah.
[:[00:41:48] Frank: Yeah. It, The thing was, did they emphasize it at all in Jurassic Park? Three? You see?
[:[00:42:03] Scott's like I wanted.
[:[00:42:07] Scott: That's what I fucking, I wanted layers for the hat. That's the shit that I really care about. I don't, I, I think it's great you made. Pretty dinosaur movie , but there's no reason why you couldn't have made sure that all the writing holes weren't, and you know,
[:[00:42:24] Remember when it shows that first like superhero shot of him standing there in the , in
[:[00:42:32] Frank: Landon pose. You want me to pick at it? How about the transparent plot twists, sprinkled about? Oh,
[:[00:42:44] And then I could have thought of something you could have done instantly. Well, I mean, you didn't need to do that. Do you think
[:[00:42:54] Scott: level of what's weird when they overwrite something. But I think that, uh, I know everyone's arguing about fucking Halloween ends, right?
[:[00:43:28] That you have with this, like dinosaurs and the characters are all wrapped up. The characters have to be wrapped up in it. And when it becomes pedestrian that there's dinosaurs, some of the magic starts to disappear. I think in the lost world, you had, Oh fuck, my girlfriend went to this place. I was never gonna go back to Damnit, John Hammond.
[:[00:44:03] And he started to understand children a little better. Still didn't want 'em though. He still didn't want 'em. But at the end of the first movie, they maybe you think that he had hope, he wanted to, you kind of do. And then that's crumbled by like, Ellie left him, he's gonna go back to this island. He has no reason to wanna do that , other than he's fucking alone.
[:[00:44:29] Frank: was that guy with him in that one who stole the rap eggs, the guy who was in ghost. It was like the, I
[:[00:44:37] Frank: cause I was trying to remember everybody in Jurassic Park.
[:[00:44:42] Scott: William h Macy Tale. Leon. Yeah. Uh, but I can't remember everyone. It's not, that's not a main thing. I mean that's, this was why I didn't like that movie very much was you undid character
[:[00:44:56] The
[:[00:45:13] Sadler never stopped being together, but now they're going on this mission together. I think that would've been a better, a lot of convenience
[:[00:45:20] Scott: it in, but I felt like a lot of the moments between them were sincere despite the they were corn as shit.
[:[00:45:27] I mean, you know, I'm not expecting like, Well, I
[:[00:45:51] the grass. Yeah. That you took our heroes and you made. Not as, as, uh, as much a part of it and as much as I cared to see the end of Claire and Owen's story, if you're gonna put 'em all together, I wanted more fulfillment out of the, you know, the Allen and Ellie love story. I know we got it at the end. . That was like the emotional motivator for me for the entire series.
[:[00:46:31] Next we're gonna do the thing where we team the counterparts together. So
[:[00:46:47] Scott: sequence
[:[00:46:52] Frank: Ian Malcolm up with, How fast did he go from telling Dotson what was up to just being where they were?
[:[00:47:03] Frank: people who had not met him yet are just accepting this guy's presence in the room with him.
[:[00:47:10] Scott: like the uh oh, hey, Dr. Malcolm could vouch for him. I mean, they were a team. Well, and the way
[:[00:47:23] Oh, for sure. Those,
[:[00:47:29] Frank: leading into the next point when they break. Ian's in the control room where he was with Hammond and the first one, giving sadr directions.
[:[00:47:42] How? Why do the locus in that room when they get there, they're all burn up on the floor because they've already invaded the facility. Yeah, but why were they attracted to that room? They weren't
[:[00:47:59] Nah, man. Um, insects and like, uh, vats. They, they like electrical wires. There's heat, there's warmth. There is soy in some electrical wires. I'm just throwing it out there. It could possibly be
[:[00:48:15] Frank: Soy. Anyway, ,
[:[00:48:20] You've got
[:[00:48:32] Scott: scenario. Take granddad out for a fucking Raptor list for her session.
[:[00:48:40] Well, and what's funny, she's got the DNA thing right, Macy. So if it was even just her, I would be like, Oh, it's like the dinosaur feels the connection with her, but then, okay, like he's got the weapon. You know, you've got Owen with the weapon and then like you're saying, Dr. Grant, what is, he's not a threat.
[:[00:48:58] Scott: of a sudden if blue reproduced asexual, there had to be other dinosaurs because that was the whole thing, that they were just gonna start having babies. Why do they need blue's kid? Because they seem to really focus on, well, we gotta take this baby raptor too. But there's no connection between the Raptor and unless there just wasn't another, a sexually reproduced dinosaur round, I guess.
[:[00:49:19] Frank: because they showed multiple T rexes after, Well, during like the wrap up. Shots. You know, when uh, the bias in facility was declared a safe habitat for the remaining dinosaurs, it showed like three tres on
[:[00:49:34] Frank: Um, the ones that were airborne, that was a lot.
[:[00:49:54] Do they? Who knows? I don't know. I haven't done a report since then on a paralysis.
[:[00:50:04] Frank: It's just like, oh, there
[:[00:50:08] Frank: paired 'em up and they each did their own thing. You had the Raptor guys, the control room chicks, and then the uh, like command centered
[:[00:50:20] Best to worst. What would you. And I'll go
[:[00:50:29] Scott: 63 45 63. I put three at the
[:[00:50:37] Scott: I would say 1, 4, 2, 5, 3, 6. Really? Even though I don't like the third Jurassic Park movie, I think that it might have been a better Jurassic Park movie than this one.
[:[00:50:48] Frank: I just, Yeah. And I get you. I won't argue it. I'm just, Yeah, I, I will put three at the very end.
[:[00:51:03] Frank: That's part of the worst part of it for me. Like I said, I'm not gonna knock this
[:[00:51:06] I will pick up it. No, but I don't think we should stand for that shit a little bit, you know? Like that. You're gonna spend this much money on a movie and then half ass the fucking characters and
[:[00:51:23] Scott: years. Yeah. And that's crazy.
[:[00:51:30] Frank: sure. The originals aren't gonna hit the same for everybody
[:[00:51:45] I'm telling you, the Barbasol, the fan service is really, it's really well done except that, but I don't think that's a substitute for pissing all over the original love story and then weekly putting it back together. Granted, that's not a problem with this movie. It's a problem of the third movie Undid The Magic that happened in that first movie, and I don't think Lost World.
[:[00:52:32] Frank: Yeah, because this is the conclusion until you guys figure out the next trilogy you're gonna do in eight to 10 years.
[:[00:52:42] Frank: on dinosaurs with leashed
[:[00:52:47] Frank: it, and they're all led by talking raccoon.
[:[00:53:05] Frank: Yeah. If it wasn't for the amazing books that Dean KOTs wrote to bring these to movie life, Dean Koons. Yeah. He wrote these.
[:[00:53:22] Frank: when they're in the water, it looks cool
[:[00:53:29] But I liked it. Fine. It was fine. I, I liked picking it apart a lot. There
[:[00:53:36] Scott: character thing though is, it's the thing I'm feel understandably mad about, like if you don't. Understand why that you didn't upsetting. To me the biggest emotional core of the first movie is Dr.
[:[00:53:58] Frank: three weeks I'll be touring the filming locations of the original Jurassic part.
[:[00:54:05] Frank: pictures I put up on our Instagram and then I'll have Olympia take good pictures and I'll send you. Okay, that sounds good. .
[:[00:54:18] We're gonna watch Crimes of the Future, which will drop on Hulu on October 31st. That'll all have already happened. Uh, Crimes of the Future is on Hulu. David Kronenberg. Uh, I venture to think that this movie will have no story at all. Mm. I think
[:[00:54:38] Scott: Yeah. I don't think I'll have as many story problems with that one. ,
[:[00:54:49] Scott: there's a lot of people in it. It's a David Kronenberg movie that could go either way.
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